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your FOSS or OSS Project is doomed to FAIL

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 6:50

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 6:51

dumb

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 6:54

1( http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1241676795/1 ) will be very upset : (

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 8:38

* Your source builds using something that isn't GNU Make [ +10 points of FAIL ]

Cmake just called, they don't mind the poster was from the 80's.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 10:01

>>4
Enjoy enjoying the pain of your users when they have to install some obscure build system that will be forgotten in five years.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 10:30

>>5
Except I will never write any software people would even consider installing.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 11:03

>>6
I will, along with you're job.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 11:07

>>5
Only developers and power users experienced in compiling software will have any use for Cmake's build system.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 14:02

>>8
So an inexperienced user cannot compile a Cmake program?  That doesn't sound very good to me.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 14:06

>>9
It's not a matter of ``cannot'', it's more like ```will not''. Inexperienced user do not compile software on their own initiative. It would be fine you can find an inexperienced user to compile a program that uses CMake build system.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 14:15

>>10
Inexperienced user do not compile software on their own initiative.
How else can they use it?  It is not like there is some magic method of installing software.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 14:18

>>11
APT and wizards.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 14:23

Every single non-trivial open source project scores really high on that.

Looks like who FAILs is the author. I wish people stopped using ``FAIL'' already. It sounds retarded.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 14:45

* There is no documentation on how to build from source [ +20 points of FAIL ]
make isn't that hard to figure out.

* Your source builds using something that isn't GNU Make [ +10 points of FAIL ]
GNU make is non-free and incompatible with standard make.

* Your source builds using something that isn't GNU Make [ +10 points of FAIL ]

* Your source only builds with third-party proprietary build tools [ +50 points of FAIL ]
lol contradiction.

* Your code tries to install into /opt or /usr/local [ +10 points of FAIL ]
/usr/local is where things should be installed by default.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 16:09

>>13
Almost as retarded as faggot quotes. Almost.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 17:12

>>15
Stop complaining about our ``proper quotes'' and leave /prog/, now.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 18:44

Your source builds using something that isn't GNU Make
So KDE "could be better"? While GNU make is ubiquitous, it's archaic and shit. The sooner lusers stop being ancient fags of this shit, the sooner the open source world will be a little nicer.

Your project does not have a mailing list
Mailing lists (or failing lists if you will) are likewise old and shit methods to communicate. This guy thinks you can only be successful if you use open shit methods.

Your releases are only in .zip format
Why prefer the most ubiquitous compression format when you can use something else? Because you're a fucking idiot.

Yeah, this guy is a retard.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 18:54

>>17
Why prefer the most ubiquitous compression format when you can use something else?
Good luck unpacking a ZIP archive on a GNU/Linux system.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 18:59

>>18
Good luck unpacking a ZIP archive on a GNU/Linux system.
I do not understand this troll.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 19:42

>>16
They're not proper. They will never be proper. ` will never have any valid use in English writing. It never has. I will not leave /prog/ until the day there are no faggot quotes left on the Internet.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 20:06

>>20
They are used in ``\latex'' source files.  If you had any legitimate business on /prog/, or, indeed, the ``Internet'', you would know this. `` ` '' is an ascii character. It encloses shell commands. That's more of a valid use than your ever going to have.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-30 21:43

>>20
You have inspiried me to change my keyboard layout to include “Unicode quotes”

Summary: Please do not use the ASCII grave accent (0x60) as a left quotation mark together with the ASCII apostrophe (0x27) as the corresponding right quotation mark (as in `quote'). Your text will otherwise appear rather strange with most modern fonts (e.g., on Windows and Mac systems). Only old X Window System fonts and some old video terminals show ASCII 0x60/0x27 as left and right quotation marks, while most modern systems follow the ISO and Unicode standards instead. If you can use only ASCII’s typewriter characters, then use the apostrophe character (0x27) as both the left and right quotation mark (as in 'quote'). If you can use Unicode characters, nice directional quotation marks are available in the form of characters U+2018, U+2019, U+201C, and U+201D (as in ‘quote’ or “quote”).

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 0:55

>>22
I think I love you, I love your post. I read it countless times, please keep posting.

>>21
It doesn't matter where they're used, if they're used incorrectly (as in the cases you point out), they're still wrong. ` is only meant to be combined with letters in languages such as French and Spanish. à, for example. It is never, ever a punctuation mark of its own, no matter what uses it.

That's like saying if Obama uses some word he made up, it's a valid word. Talk about unscientific and ultimately destructive.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 5:01

Why are you dudes complaining about ``proper quotes?''  It's not like you actually see the raw ` character, now is it... wait... are you guys browsing the Internet without a LaTeX filter??????????

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 5:22

I will use proper quotes `forever'. So fuck you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 6:13

Why prefer the most ubiquitous compression format when you can use something else?
ZIP sucks. Everyone who uses any kind of programming anything uses better formats. .tar.gz is a standard for sources.
Even 7z would be better as default compression.
While GNU make is ubiquitous, it's archaic and shit.
Hypocritical much?
GNU make may be archaic, but it's not as outdated as ZIP.
Every system capable of compiling code has GNU make capabilities. Not every system capable of compiling code has ZIP support installed.

IHBT, this troll is too obvious with his hypocrisy not to be a troll.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 7:16

Everyone who uses any kind of programming anything uses better formats
What?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 7:56

>>26
GNU make may be archaic, but it's not as outdated as ZIP.
Make predates Zip by about twelve years. Try harder next time.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 8:19

>>28
Not trolling.
GNU make is older than Zip, but alternatives to Zip have more advantage over it than (*)make has to GNU make.
You can't say that cmake, imake or qmake is objectively and in every aspect better than GNU make.
You can however say it about 7zip compared to Zip.

>>27
Machine capable of being programmed on is also capable of compressing/decompressing formats better than Zip.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 8:37

>>29
CMake is a cross platform make system. It will generate makefiles for the various build systems such as UNIX and GNU make files, and MS Visual Studio make files.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 9:44

>>30
Why would you need a "cross-platform" make system?  GNU Make is already cross-platform, and probably runs on more platforms than some toy software.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 10:00

>>29
7zip is slow. In fact, it is so slow. It's reallyreally slow. It might as well be written in ruby

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 10:16

>>32
It's only rubyesque during the compression.
During the decompression it's actually really fast.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 10:53

>>31
CMake is a cross platform makefile generator system.  You can use CMake to generate GNU Make compliant makefiles.

First, you write your project's build configuration using CMake's special language. Next, you use the CMake program to generate makefiles from your CMake build config. Finally, you use your native build system to actually build the software.

You use CMake's system to generate makefiles because IMO, it's far easier to write powerful build configurations using CMake's system as compared to writing your build configurations in their native language. The fact that CMake supports multiple make systems also makes it convenient to write a single build configuration that will work on the supported make systems.

>>32
Compare the compression ratios for 7-zip's format with other compression formats. You'll find 7-zip's ratios will match the best of them.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 11:08

>>25
My condolences. It must feel like shit being so wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 11:52

>>32
I raged

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 12:19

>>34
のヮの

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 13:25

>>37
nowano? what does that mean?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-31 14:39

>>38
It's Japanese for YHBT.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 0:48

>>26
Are you suggesting that make's shittiness is even remotely comparable zip's shittiness?

The day they write an obamanation like automake for zip is the day you will no longer be a troll.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 1:26

You can however say it about 7zip compared to Zip.
7zip is non-free.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 1:30

>>41
And? Do you have to pay money to use it? well then, what's your problem?

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 1:40

>>72
i have to either put up with a shitty interface or write non-free code to use it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 7:55

>>43
EXPERT FUTURE SEER

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 9:18

>>23
I don't know about Frenchmen, but I can assure you the opening faggot quote `[code] has no legal use in Spanish. Spanish only uses [code]´ (as in áéíóú) and if you push it really hard ~ (just for ñ).

Oh, and also ¨ for ü. That's very rare though.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 9:31

>>41
The LZMA SDK is in the public domain. It's hard to get freer than that. The 7z archive handling code is LGPL. Most people would consider that free enough. You can remove the RAR handling if you want to.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 12:14

>>45
English, however, has a perfectly valid use for the grave accent.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-01 13:19

>>47
Except it doesn't.

>>45
+5, Informative

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