I still want to learn programming though, should I even bother? I keep thinking I won't be as good as I should be at it.
What do you think /prog/?
I need answers only an anonymous board can provide.
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Anonymous2009-03-13 22:05
IQ means nothing. Take for example, AmazingAthiest. He would score 75 on an IQ test but his Religious and Spiritual intelligence, as well as arguably his social intelligence are through the roof.
To be fair, OP, intelligence has very little to do with a logical mind. You can be logical and simultaneously not have a great deal of capacity for learning. You must be at least this logical to program: *stretches out arms*.
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Anonymous2009-03-13 23:07
>>42
I thought the whole purpose of IQ tests was to test logical aptitude
ACTUALLY IQ TESTS ARE VERY MEANINGFUL AND ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE ACCURACY BECAUSE SOME ONLINE TESTS ARE NOT ACCURATE!!!! MY IQ IS OVER 160!!!!!!!! I GOT TO MIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT A LOT OF SMARTS SEE?
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Anonymous2009-03-13 23:28
>>43
If we look at programming as an art and not a science then we find that an IQ would have a very small correlation with the ability to program.
Yes a lot of programming is problem solving and that is quite strongly correlated to a persons IQ. But, when you look at higher order programming languages are they really rooted in problem solving as much as programming once was?
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So for you only Assembly is true programming?
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Anonymous2009-03-13 23:39
>>48
I think he was implying the only way it could be that a person spends more time thinking about how to artistically implement and layout their code rather than how to solve the actual problem the code is intended for would be if they are using a toy language.
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Anonymous2009-03-14 1:41
>>49
Agreed, but it's the opposite type of artistry I was thinking about. I was more thinking about the final product and how someone envisioned it rather than how someone tinkered with their code.
>>43
No. There's a reason it's called intelligence quotient and not logic quotient.
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Anonymous2009-03-14 3:14
>>51
So how do you define intelligence? Having a large knowledge base of facts and figures?
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Anonymous2009-03-14 3:56
>>52
I'd say that what intelligence is, more than anything else, is simple pattern recognition. Take a look at the IQ test popularized in legendary /prog/ thread http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1230319180 and it's pretty clear that that's what all of the questions are about.
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Anonymous2009-03-14 4:05
My IQ was 112 I believe.
I don't really think the IQ system is something you should use to measure how smart you are.
There are different types of smart.
Street smarts, common sense, book smarts, etc.
Just because I payed attention in school doesn't mean I'm not an idiot in other parts of my life.
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That doesn't return a definition of intelligence. It consists of a bunch of problems which by themselves are very simple. A slightly more accurate measurement of intelligence would be to utilize learning functions in addition to intuition, pattern recognition, and short-term memory. Something like giving the subject a small (fabricated) language to learn and having them answer questions afterward which test their creativity and reflexiveness when confronted with new information.
In other words, give them a chapter from SICP
Also IHBT
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Intelligence indicates capacity for learning more than anything else. It's the product of how much you can remember (both long and short term), how quickly you can commit these things to memory, and for how long you can maintain the memories.
For example, someone who cannot remember something for more than 10 seconds will appear to be stupid. Someone who cannot commit something to memory without 50 hours of being exposed to the same content will appear to be stupid. Someone who can only remember 5 things well will appear to be stupid.
Logic is a way of thinking and has nothing to do with your capacity for learning. Someone who is not logical at all can still be intelligent (e.g. women). Someone who is logical is not necessarily intelligent at all, they simply think in a certain way.
IHBT
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Anonymous2009-03-14 12:55
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Can you give an example of a woman being intelligent while not being logical?
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