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LINUX SUCK

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-10 23:17

LINUX SUCKS BECAUSE

FLASH SUCKS, WINE SUCKS, THE GUI's SUCK, EVERYTHING IS SLOWER THEN WHEN I HAD WINDOWS ON THE SAME MACHINE

WHAT THE FUCK I GOOGLE LINUX DRIVERS AND I GET FAT NERDS ON DISCUSSION BOARDS, GOD DAMN, WHERE IS IT

WHY DO I HAVE TO COMPILE EVERYTHING MYSELF, WHATS WRONG WITH DOWNLOADING BINARYS, HALF THE TIME DEVS FUCK UP THE MAKE FILE ANYWAY AND I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ON C++ SO I CAN'T FIX IT.

EVERYTIME YOU HAVE TO DO SO MUCH AS MOVE THE MOUSE YOU NEED THE TERMINAL FOR IT.  IT'S SO FUCKING ANNOYING, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT TERMINAL COMMANDS, HOW IS THAT ANYMORE EASIER THEN CLICKING BUTTONS.  THERE'S A REASON WINDOWS IS SO POPULAR, THEY GOT OUT OF THE FUCKING 80'S AND KILLED THE NECESSITY FOR THE COMMAND LINE.

GOD DAMN GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND GET THIS SHIT FIXED

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-10 23:43

>>1
+1, Informative

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 0:13

>>1
Saved to my kopipe file

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 0:16

HAHAHA OH WOW <sage> all fields </sage>

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 0:20

lol

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 0:21

2009, Year of the Linux desktop.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 0:22

It's funny because it's true.

Name: INSANE PRIEST MEME FAN 2009-03-11 1:31

>>1
Not graphical enough.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 1:41

WHY DO I HAVE TO COMPILE EVERYTHING MYSELF, WHATS WRONG WITH DOWNLOADING BINARYS, HALF THE TIME DEVS FUCK UP THE MAKE FILE ANYWAY AND I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ON C++ SO I CAN'T FIX IT.
Advanced Packaging System is the best thing that happened to me. You should try it too.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 1:49

FLASH SUCKS, WINE SUCKS, THE GUI's SUCK, EVERYTHING IS SLOWER THEN WHEN I HAD WINDOWS ON THE SAME MACHINE
wine on linux is faster than windows. wine on freebsd is even faster.

WHAT THE FUCK I GOOGLE LINUX DRIVERS AND I GET FAT NERDS ON DISCUSSION BOARDS, GOD DAMN, WHERE IS IT
the drivers are included.

WHY DO I HAVE TO COMPILE EVERYTHING MYSELF, WHATS WRONG WITH DOWNLOADING BINARYS, HALF THE TIME DEVS FUCK UP THE MAKE FILE ANYWAY AND I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ON C++ SO I CAN'T FIX IT.
you don't. just start synaptic and click the shiny buttons. it's even easier than installing stuff on windows.

EVERYTIME YOU HAVE TO DO SO MUCH AS MOVE THE MOUSE YOU NEED THE TERMINAL FOR IT.  IT'S SO FUCKING ANNOYING, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT TERMINAL COMMANDS, HOW IS THAT ANYMORE EASIER THEN CLICKING BUTTONS.  THERE'S A REASON WINDOWS IS SO POPULAR, THEY GOT OUT OF THE FUCKING 80'S AND KILLED THE NECESSITY FOR THE COMMAND LINE.
you rarely really need to use the command line in linux. most of the time there are graphical tools that can get the job done just fine. on windows, there are graphical tools to do basic things, but for a lot of things you have to use the command line because there's just no other way to do it on windows.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 4:12

Yes, I use Gentoo. So? I dont see any problem. I embraced my Gentoo distro long ago and I am happy together with my workstation (that is a stage 1 box!). I have a fucking lot of ebuilds in and outside of portage and my CFLAGS are pretty optimized and solid.

But thanks anyway asshole. Go and use your stupid Debian while I EMERGE new ebuilds.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 4:25

>>10
Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.

Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup".

Linux zealots are far too forgiving when judging the difficultly of Linux configuration issues and far too harsh when judging the difficulty of Windows configuration issues. Example comments:

User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Linux?"
Zealot: "Oh that's easy! If you have Feisty Fawn, you have to download quake_4_feisty_i686_060607_glibc.bin, then do chmod +x on the file. Then you have to su to root, make sure you type exportLD_ASSUME_KERNEL =2.2.5 but ONLY if you have the stock kernel installed. If you don't, don't set that environment variable or the installer will dump core. Before you run the installer, make sure you have the GL drivers for X installed. Get them at [some obscure web address], chmod +x the binary, then run it, but make sure you have at least 10MB free in /tmp or the installer will dump core. After the installer is done, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add a section called "GL" and put "driver nv" in it. Make sure you have the latest version of X and Linux kernel 2.6 or else X will segfault when you start. OK, run the Quake 4 installer and make sure you set the proper group and setuid permissions on quake4.bin. If you want sound, look here [link to another obscure web site], which is a short HOWTO on how to get sound in Quake 4. That's all there is to it!"

User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Windows?"
Zealot: "Oh God, I had to install Quake 4 in Windoze for some lamer friend of mine! God, what a fucking mess! I put in the CD and it took about 3 minutes to copy everything, and then I had to reboot the fucking computer! Jesus Christ! What a retarded operating system!"

So, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that what seems easy and natural to Linux geeks is definitely not what regular people consider easy and natural. Hence, the preference towards Windows.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-11 4:26

>>11
Gentoo doesn't need to compile them anymore.They come in binary Pentium686 optimized format.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 4:32

WINDOWS SUCKS BECAUSE

FLASH SUCKS, CYGWIN SUCKS, THE GUI's SUCK, EVERYTHING IS SLOWER THEN WHEN I HAD LINUX ON THE SAME MACHINE

WHAT THE FUCK I GOOGLE WINDOWS DRIVERS AND I GET FAT NERDS ON DISCUSSION BOARDS, GOD DAMN, WHERE IS IT

WHY DO I HAVE TO STUDY NETWORK SECURITY, WHATS WRONG WITH SHIPPING A SECURE SYSTEM, HALF THE TIME THE ANTIVIRUS FUCK UP THE SCAN ANYWAY AND I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ON FIREWALL PERMISSIONS.

EVERYTIME YOU HAVE TO DO SO MUCH AS MOVE THE MOUSE YOU NEED THE ANTISPYWARE FOR IT.  IT'S SO FUCKING ANNOYING, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT NETWORK SECURITY, HOW IS THAT ANYMORE EASIER THEN SUPERIOR SECURED SYSTEMS.  THERE'S A REASON LINUX IS SO AWESOME, THEY GOT OUT OF THE FUCKING 90'S WITH THEIR AWESOME, WELL DESIGNED ARCHITECTURE.

GOD DAMN GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND GET THIS SHIT FIXED

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 4:42

User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Linux?"
1. wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake4/linux/quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
2. sudo ./quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
3. get the .pk4 files from the quake 4 cd or bittorent to /usr/local/games/quake4/q4base
4. quake4

User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Windows?"
1. put in the cd
2. point & click a few times
3. click on the icon
4. watch it crash
5. give up

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 4:46

How do I hax my own anus in Leahnux?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 6:57

>>16
It does it for you automagically

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 7:02

>>10
Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare
A lot of Linux users don't care Tm and are happy enough that we have a great OS without the need to preach to others. The only people who actually care about market share are people using windows, mac os x or ubuntu.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 8:38

>>18
That's still Ubanto for you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 12:36

Packaging systems are an utter joke.

Oh great! My distro of choice has the 2-year-old mplayer rc-2 in their packaging system because the idiot who does it hasn't got a clue and doesn't know you're supposed to use the latest svn. Shame I want a feature that was implemented one year ago.

Windows: Download the latest binary from someone who compiles them. All done.

Linux:
apt-get blah blah blah whatever-dev library-dev dependency-dev blah compiler blah buildutils blah
svn co blah blah blah
- wait 20 minutes while you download 200MB of crap -
./configure --enable-niggers --fuck-RMS-in-the-ass --non-redistributable --non-retarded-defaults
./make
- wait 40 minutes, check build errors, repeat -
- and now just run the fucking thing from the build folder, because you don't fucking know where things are supposed to be installed in the retarded /usr/blah/bin/crap/shit mess, not to mention conflicts with the built-in package manager -

I can run Linux just fine, but I definitely choose not to. Likewise, I don't think a lot of mechanics enjoy building their own car. It just gets tiresome after a while, for absolutely nothing. These problems are not technical, they are social/cultural. Linux people just don't care.

Fuck Linux.

BTW the other day I saw some web server logs. Guess who were the majority of users using outdated versions of Firefox? (sub 2.0.0.20 for Fx2, sub 3.0.5 for Fx3) Yeah, that's right: Linux users. That's package management for you. Fucking faggots.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 12:37

>>3
GIVE ME YOUR KOPIPE FILE

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 12:40

I can run Linux just fine, but I definitely choose not to. Likewise, I don't think a lot of mechanics enjoy building their own car. It just gets tiresome after a while, for absolutely nothing.

This is actually quite true.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 14:26

He's correct. I prefer building my own cdr.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 15:07

>>15

User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Linux?"
1. wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake4/linux/quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
2. sudo ./quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
3. get the .pk4 files from the quake 4 cd or bittorent to /usr/local/games/quake4/q4base
4. quake4

How would you know to type all that shit in?  How is that easier then clicking a big next button a few times?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-11 15:11

>>24
Its hard to understand the logic behind this,but it simple.
1. wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake4/linux/quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
downloads quake files through console(to current path) 
2. sudo ./quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
switch to admin rights to execute quake executable in current path
3. get the .pk4 files from the quake 4 cd or bittorent to /usr/local/games/quake4/q4base
another step: download level files for quake
4. quake4
play the game on linux.

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The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-11 15:14

setup Wizards were invented for reason. Streamline installation.
The linux logic requires manually perform the same steps for any software: such things should be automated.
Some distros use package managers,but they are still behind window wizards.
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 15:24

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 15:44

Some distros use package managers,but they are still behind window wizards.
1/10

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-11 16:12

>>28
Its a fact. Linux advocates don't pay attention to such things. But they use the software in their own way.


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It requires great courage to look and judge oneself honestly and forge one's own path.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 16:47

>>1-29
Back to /g/, please.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 17:01

>>18
>The only people who actually care about market share are people using windows, mac os x or ubuntu.

i use ubuntu and i don't give a fuck about market share. And neitehr do most of the good users. The creators and enthusiasts only care about having a good basic OS. Even the ubuntu people say: "We don't need you, you or you so come or gtfo we don't give a shit because when you leave nothing of value was lost."

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 17:13


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 19:44

the drivers are included.
no, not really.  at all.  especially for wireless cards.  I've tried linux on 5 diffrent laptops, some diffrent brands, and not one worked 'out of the box'.  On one particular one, I tried looking for drivers for the wireless card but all I found was, basicly
WHAT THE FUCK I GOOGLE LINUX DRIVERS AND I GET FAT NERDS ON DISCUSSION BOARDS, GOD DAMN, WHERE IS IT

Eventually I did come across a small source forge page with code for the exact card I have.  The project was something like v0.1 and hasn't been updated since 2005.  I tried to download and compile but the author fucked up the make file and made references to his own home folder and other shit.  Since I don't waste my time with C++ and programming, I couldn't get the driver at all.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 19:57

>>33
get a decent wireless card or lrn2ndisgtk

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 20:15

>>34
Laptop.  Even if I could, why the hell should I buy a new wireless card that works perfectly fine with windows.

I tried the windows wireless thing too, I downloaded the extracter from the manufacturer's website, used wine to extract, and tried to find what exactly to add into it.  It looks for .inf files, so I add the .inf files, one by freaking one, until it tells me I have the right one(why can't it automatically do that?).  It still didn't work in the end.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 20:38

I'm tired of Linuxfags. "LINUX > WINDOWS 4EVRRRR"

Let's break it down:

Linux
___________
Pros:
- Free
- (very) Customizable
- A lot of free alternatives to commercial programs
- Decent interface
- ...
- ...
- Secure (to some extent)
- ...Free

Cons:
- Not ergonomic (to home users)
- Drivers for some hardware aren't fully "stable" (if made at all!)
- No games
- Linuxfags
- UI crashes (a lot)
- The only support you can get is from a "support" forum or knowledgebase



Windows
_________

Pros:
- A wide variety of commercial and free software
- Ergonomic
- Decent-looking UI (although it looks ripped from MacOS)
- GAEMZ
- Easy to solve common problems
- Fun to pirate
- Decent-to-great support
- NEATCOOL Media center shit (though I don't use it, myself)
- Usually no hardware compatibility error

Cons:
- Shit can fuck up a lot
- Can be slow
- Vista sucks more RAM than a hooker does cock
- much, much more


to conclude, I want to just want to ask "why are there so many Linux evangelists?"

I mean, really. Linux isn't that great. Why does it seem like Linuxfags want EVERYONE to use it? Especially fucking Ubuntu. It's not as great as they (try to) make it look.I installed that on my laptop and it ran slow as fuck; you wouldn't believe how pissed I was. And my laptop isn't that bad, tbh. imho, it should only be used as a server OS, lol.



It'll be fun to see how many of you rage at the above. GOGOGO.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 20:44

>>35
lrn2ndisgtk

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 20:52

>>36
Only one of your Windows pros is actually defensible, and you even managed to get one of the cons wrong. The Linux bit shows your ignorance.
Try actually using an OS before trying to comment on it, and use a few other ones to get a sense of perspective. As it is it's too obvious you've only used Windows, and then only superficially, and maybe spent fifteen minutes fucking with a Ubanto live CD.

If your post was entirely a deliberately crafter troll, I'd give it 4/10. It prompted me to reply, but I didn't really rage. The ignorance is there, but it's lacking in obnoxiousness.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 20:56

I've only seen one person in my entire life that uses linux as a primary OS.  And even then he uses a VM for windows apps like outlook.

Linux just seems so useless as a desktop OS.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-11 21:06

>>39
I once knew someone that used FreeBSD as his primary OS, but he was a colossal nerd who obviously just liked to make things difficult for himself. Incredibly smart guy, but just not smart enough to use a proper OS like Windows 98.

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