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Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 21:38

$ LC_ALL=el_GR.UTF-8 /usr/bin/cal
                                                                                (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿
(꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                        (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿            (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿        (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿                                                    (꿿$꿿8꿿H꿿M▒鿿꿿
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zsh: segmentation fault  LC_ALL=el_GR.UTF-8 /usr/bin/cal

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 21:42

>>1
el_"GRUNNUR".UTF-8

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 21:42

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 21:49

so what?
you're acting like linux/windows/macfaggotry has no faults

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 21:52

i wouldn't be surprised if os x has the same bug.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 21:58

Who cares about chink characters anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 22:01

>>4
Name one, ONE fault with WINDOWS.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 22:02

>>5
Mac cal doesn't seem to have locale options, it's the same no mater what.

>>6
Yeah, who cares about those fucking Greek chinks.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 22:06

>>7
constant unexplainable networking problems in Vista.
actually, that's the only thing that i have against Vista - i don't know why it gets such bad press

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 22:22

>>8
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.5/misc_cmds-23/calendar/day.c
static struct fixs fndays[8];         /* full national days names */
static struct fixs ndays[8];          /* short national days names */

static struct fixs fnmonths[13];      /* full national months names */
static struct fixs nmonths[13];       /* short national month names */


void setnnames(void)
{
    char buf[80];
    int i, l;
    struct tm tm;

    for (i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
        tm.tm_wday = i;
        strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), "%a", &tm);
        for (l = strlen(buf);
             l > 0 && isspace((unsigned char)buf[l - 1]);
             l--)
            ;
        buf[l] = '\0';
        if (ndays[i].name != NULL)
            free(ndays[i].name);
        if ((ndays[i].name = strdup(buf)) == NULL)
            errx(1, "cannot allocate memory");
        ndays[i].len = strlen(buf);

        strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), "%A", &tm);
        for (l = strlen(buf);
             l > 0 && isspace((unsigned char)buf[l - 1]);
             l--)
            ;
        buf[l] = '\0';
        if (fndays[i].name != NULL)
            free(fndays[i].name);
        if ((fndays[i].name = strdup(buf)) == NULL)
            errx(1, "cannot allocate memory");
        fndays[i].len = strlen(buf);
    }

    for (i = 0; i < 12; i++) {
        tm.tm_mon = i;
        strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), "%b", &tm);
        for (l = strlen(buf);
             l > 0 && isspace((unsigned char)buf[l - 1]);
             l--)
            ;
        buf[l] = '\0';
        if (nmonths[i].name != NULL)
            free(nmonths[i].name);
        if ((nmonths[i].name = strdup(buf)) == NULL)
            errx(1, "cannot allocate memory");
        nmonths[i].len = strlen(buf);

        strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), "%B", &tm);
        for (l = strlen(buf);
             l > 0 && isspace((unsigned char)buf[l - 1]);
             l--)
            ;
        buf[l] = '\0';
        if (fnmonths[i].name != NULL)
            free(fnmonths[i].name);
        if ((fnmonths[i].name = strdup(buf)) == NULL)
            errx(1, "cannot allocate memory");
        fnmonths[i].len = strlen(buf);
    }
}


>>6
mn_MN.UTF-8 has the same problem.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 23:13

>>9
- Explorer remembers some folder customizations and forgets others, seemingly at random.
- Why isn't ncpa.cpl in the Control Panel anymore?
- Windows Search doesn't fucking work ever ever ever.[1]
- Brain-dead security model that nags you with two separate dialogs for every filesystem operation that requires escalation.
- UAC prompts don't tell you what the app is requesting permission to do.
- Arcane syntax for running commands as an administrative user from the command prompt.
- "This program may not have installed correctly" after the fact. Worst possible solution to the backwards-compatibility problem.



[1]. http://i40.tinypic.com/33ynhbp.png

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 23:18

>>8
Mac cal doesn't seem to have locale options, it's the same no mater what.
~ % uname -a
Darwin singularity.lan 9.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:37:00 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

~ % LC_ALL=el_GR.UTF-8 /usr/bin/cal
  Φεβρουαρίου 2009
Κυ Δε Τρ Τε Πε Πα Σα
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Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 23:18

>>10
Oh, I'm still running 10.4.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-10 23:52

>>10,13
calendar != cal
cal is here:
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.6/misc_cmds-23/ncal/ncal.c
/* Put the local names of weekdays into the wds */
void
mkweekdays(struct weekdays *wds)
{
    int i, len;
    struct tm tm;
    char buf[20];
    int j, col;
    wchar_t *wcs;

    memset(&tm, 0, sizeof(tm));

    for (i = 0; i != 7; i++) {
        tm.tm_wday = (i+1) % 7;
        strftime(buf, sizeof(buf), "%a", &tm);

        len = mbstowcs(NULL, buf, 0);
        wcs = calloc(len + 1, sizeof(wchar_t));
        mbstowcs(wcs, buf, len);
        for (j = 0; j < len; j++)
            if (wcswidth(wcs, j + 1) >= 2)
                break;
        wcs[j + 1] = 0;

        col = wcswidth(wcs, j + 1);
        len = wcstombs(NULL, wcs, 0);
        wds->names[i] = calloc(len + 2 - col + 1, sizeof(char));
        wcstombs(wds->names[i], wcs, len);
        free(wcs);
        if (col < 2)
            strcat(wds->names[i], " ");
    }
}


also, it breaks POSIX by varying the date at which it switches form julian to gregorian based on the locale.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 0:10

>>11
1000‰ agreed. Fuck, I rage uncontrollably every time someone reminds me of how bad explorer is. I will now proceed to rant until I feel better :)

I had to turn off Explorer's remembering of folder views because it was so fucking irritating. (It's still irritating, and still randomly changes view for no fucking reason, but less so.)

And why the fuck does it insist on removing the useful columns I have set up and replacing them with picture shit like Dimensions, Date Taken, even though I'm in a folder full of normal files or music?
http://xs136.xs.to/xs136/09072/explorerpigdisgusting951.jpg

And wtf is with the desktop.ini files that it shits everywhere it goes?

And as >>11 said, Windows Search is useless most of the time. I gave it 2 years, and it still sucks. I turned off the Indexing service, which is a waste of CPU and starts torturing my disks every time I lock my workstation, even for 5 minutes.

And why do normal directories act retarded after I've visited certain control panels (Programs + Features, Sync Center...). I don't even know what the fuck the second one is. Never seen it before.
http://xs136.xs.to/xs136/09072/extended-tiles294.png
http://xs136.xs.to/xs136/09072/wtficons362.png

(Notice BabelMapNT in the above screenshot? I use that because character map sucks so much ass, since Microsoft pays no attention to the core utilities.)

And why the fuck does it STILL insist on spinning up my DVD drive so that it can get a fucking icon to display in the drop down of the Save As dialog? It's been doing that for every Windows OS I remember, except maybe 3.1. I now have a phobia of leaving DVDs in the drive. Fuck you, windows.

FUCK AUTORUN!

"Problem reports and solutions" crap. Just more stuff that doesn't work to turn off. Yes, I tried it for about 2 years.

What's with the shitty welcome screen? I'm using Vista business here. Just give me a proper login screen, like Windows 2000.

Programs and Features takes minutes just to list what I have installed. I know there's a ton of backward compatibility bullshit around there, but is it really so hard to speed this up?

Windows Photo Gallery, which happens to be the default image viewer, is a piece of crap. It loads far too slowly for something that is the default picture viewer. And to add insult to injury, it can't even crop PNG images.

http://xs136.xs.to/xs136/09072/youcandoit602.png
☝ This still happens, even after Service Pack 1. Which, by the way, took longer to install than Windows itself.

Over 9000 programs still put shit in my Documents folder. I don't want it! I guess some people would call it unfair to blame this on Microsoft. I still do, partly because most of the shit in there is Office/Visual Studio's anyway.

Windows Update and Security Center are chronic naggers.

Taskbar bands suck, and don't restore themselves properly when I change screen resolution. Still only one taskbar per monitor without something like UltraMon.

Only one theme, requires bullshit to install new ones.

Anyway, I'll stop shitting up this FreeBSD thread.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 3:57

>>15
>☝ This still happens, even after Service Pack 1. Which, by the way, took longer to install than Windows itself.
That was actually fixed, but the fix is for vendors only. WinBeta or some similar site should be able to provide it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 5:21

>>9
constant unexplainable networking problems in Vista.
Might or might not be a driver issue. Intel finally released a driver that actually works for their wireless garbage a month ago, taking only two years to do so. That said, it's more retarded than before for sure.

>>11
Windows Search doesn't fucking work ever ever ever.
Oh, I though it was only me? Surely they wouldn't miss such a tremendous defect, right? I have to disable indexing so I can actually use search, otherwise about 20% of the files don't show up. I tried to diagnose it but no dice.

"This program may not have installed correctly" after the fact. Worst possible solution to the backwards-compatibility problem.
Oh god. "Windows has applied some compatibility settings. I won't tell you what they are, and I won't let you turn them off. Try again, good luck!"

>>15
Programs and Features takes minutes just to list what I have installed. I know there's a ton of backward compatibility bullshit around there, but is it really so hard to speed this up?
Actually it's not, it can be done under 100ms, all the data is already under a registry key. It might need to calculate hard disk usage, but it could and should be done on the background after the list has been shown. It runs much better than XP though. Also, see: http://wistinga.online.fr/safarp/ - kinda sad if you ask me about it.

Windows Photo Gallery, which happens to be the default image viewer, is a piece of crap. It loads far too slowly for something that is the default picture viewer. And to add insult to injury, it can't even crop PNG images.
Oh, it can't show animated GIFs either. But it can show videos, as long as they are either shitty camera MJPEGs or Windows Media Video bullshit, regardless of which codecs you have installed. Remember: it's not a image viewer, it's a "digital photo" piece of shit. It's a miracle it supports PNGs to begin with. I recall MS saying that the only reason it supports GIFs is because "some users had PHOTOS in that format". Also, yay for asymmetry: open GIFs in IE but do show them when traversing the directory with WPG.

Which, by the way, took longer to install than Windows itself.
For me, initial installation was 30min, SP1 was literally over 3h. That's nothing though, before SP1 every update took tens of minutes to install. Probably more than 100h spent installing security updates in all.

Also, I agree wholeheartedly on Explorer sucking donkey balls. It's amazingly broken. I suspected it stores folder settings using some sort of hash for the folder name, and they picked up a terrible one and it's marred with collisions, but I never bothered to check. Now excuse me while I go back to rate and assign genres to my fucking executables.

Anybody has tried Windows 7? I don't really expect any fixes but it'd be nice to know beforehand it's going to be as broken.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 6:16

I'd like to add to >>15 the annoying way Explorer's folders pane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar but attempts to horizontally scroll for you. It's frustrating.

>>17
I suspected it stores folder settings using some sort of hash for the folder name, and they picked up a terrible one and it's marred with collisions, but I never bothered to check
It's in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags. It's horrible! It actually forgets old view settings after a while, since there's a limited number.

The registry modifications at the end of this post make it use Details View all the time. It's not ideal, since it resets to Details View even when you navigate into subfolders, which can be irritating. Also, column sizes revert every time too. (Also, I'm fairly sure I've still had the wrong columns show up from time to time, but that may be desktop.ini shit.)

Supposedly XdN Tweaker will perform this modification too. Seems OK.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\BagMRU]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]

"FolderType"="NotSpecified"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]

"BagMRU Size"=dword:00007530

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 6:21

Anybody has tried Windows 7? I don't really expect any fixes but it'd be nice to know beforehand it's going to be as broken.
they did make UAC a bit less annoying. other than that it seems like they're too busy mucking with the kernel to do anything worth mentioning.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 6:23

Fuck, I fail at BBCODE. You get the idea, anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 8:40

And why the fuck does it insist on removing the useful columns I have set up and replacing them with picture shit like Dimensions, Date Taken, even though I'm in a folder full of normal files or music?
FUCK, I RAGED. I can't believe they spent 5 years on this and made Explorer worse.

Given all the time they had, they could've addressed the chronic problem with file handles left open that prevents you from deleting/renaming files.

When you focus an item in a tree, the widget will immediately scroll to the right until the end of the item's label is visible. This fucks up EVERYTHING that has large trees, like a folder hierarchy or a project in Eclipse.

The 64-bit version sucks even more. Example: it comes with both 32- and 64-bit builds of Internet Explorer. But the 64-bit version supports NO plugins and is useless. Why did they even bother?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 8:43

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 10:48

I came in here thinking this was going to be an interesting FreeBSD thread, but all I found were a bunch of WinFags bitching about their POSIX un-compliant shitOS.

How about we all calm down and discuss the technical merits and limitations of having syscons not have UNICODE support?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 11:21

>>23
UNICODE FAGGOTS everyone learn english!!

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 12:17

>>24
Half of the glyphs English uses are outside of ASCII too.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 12:22

ITT: FAGGOTS WHO CAN'T USE WINDOWS RIGHT.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 12:44

>>26
Is that even possible?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 13:08

>>27
Of course it is. We all know that windows is a faggot operating system, leaving your computer little more than a paperweight. Therefore, if you use your computer as a paperweight, then you are using windows correctly.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 15:02

FREEBSD IS DA BEST,
DAT MEANS FREEBSD IS DA BOSS

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 15:34

FreeBSD is basically Anonix?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 16:02

>>30
THE TRUTH IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 16:22

>>30
except for the fact that freebsd actually exists, yeah.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-11 16:27

>>30
Then is the FreeBSD devil really that tranny cudder?

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