hi /prog/
I am a first year student and I want to make myself as marketable as possible once I graduate. We started our first class learning to program in Java but I feel like the stuff we learned would be pretty useless elsewhere. so, what language should I try learning on my own now?
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Anonymous2008-12-18 5:57
>>40
You impertinent little shit. You don't want to mess with me, buddy. I have n+1 years of EXPERT PROGRAMMING experience writing factorials with monads you couldn't even begin to comprehed. I had read SICP already when you were still unborn.
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Anonymous2008-12-18 22:02
>>40
#1) you can't even use IRC well; #2) you can't tab-complete; #3) you can't google - this implies yer too busy jerking off and sucking soda or video-gaming. Die well, kid
OP can't handle SICP if he can't fucking type 'SICP' into google and go to the first link. GB2 ENTERPRISE
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Anonymous2008-12-20 23:37
OP wants advice on which language he should learn to become part of enterprise, he can't use fucking google, and took a computer science course where they taught java(which means hes probobly still in highschool).
who gives a fuck if enterprise fuckers like >>31
never hire programmers that aren't fit to sit in an office and make accounting programs? these people don't enjoy programming and see it as a profession instead of creating a work like an artist.
the same can be said of engineers in all fields, there are the engineers that sit in offices and design shovel handles all day, and there are the engineers who actually want to invent things.
eventually it comes down to >>43
and the fact that some artists will make art simply for the money, some artists will make art that you can buy at walmart on some shirt or some decorative plate.. and some artists will make art simply because they enjoy it, this is how it has always been and how it will always be nomatter what.
END OF THREAD.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 0:08
I would like to reopen this thread for further discussion. I believe that it is an important topic which warrants a fuller appreciation and deeper exploration.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 0:22
>>46
the only thing that warrents fuller appreciation and extended exploration on /prog/ is SICP
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Anonymous2008-12-21 1:46
>>47
until we have divided SICP up into various books with each line assigned a specific reference number like the christian bible, we have not explored deep enough.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 3:24
Do not worry most larger companies once you have been hired will not fire you unless you give them HR Style (Gun, sex abuse, crazy, do not show up) cause. So get one of those find something useful like drawing UML pictures or writing documentation so the few people who actually do all the work want you around. Then just wait for the downsize layoff. Read SICP daily, learn the 5 hacking languages, Art of Programming, and do not send useless email.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 3:33
Yeah you are pretty useless so better work on your personality, find a large organization with a lot of bureaucracy, and buddy up with some smarter folks.
>>1
If you want to be marketable, learn stupid languages that will give you shitty money for 5 years or less, then get fired and treaten like shit forever.
Just do your godamn BSc and study what you find interesting. Don't think about enterprises or shit like that.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 4:15
Just learn C and Java. Well start with Python and then do C and then you might as well learn C++. Learn LISP because it is the GodFather of _all_ languages. So after Python do C and LISP first then Java and C++ and then learn Perl because it is the duct tape of the InterWebs. You can make bank with java but you really can clean up if you know all this because you have depth.
Yeah in the last order.
Oh almost forgot, Life ain't Nuthin' but bitches n' Money
Stick with GPL languages and GNU OS then you will build skills and not have to retool like those proprietary fools do. The cash is in mobile for Android and iPhone on short term and Java still is a money maker with the addition of being GPL which makes it a permanently profitable language. Stay away from Microsoft the shops suck, lack innovation, and the people are generally second rate with bad attitudes.
Learn the "mechanics" of software like documentation, build tools, unit testing, acceptance testing, and source control. Learn to use a GNU OS so you can make your own server farm.
Try to be financially self sufficient and then independent, so learn some accounting. If you can pull it off and you are earning off the Internet then remember nobody knows/cares what code lies behind the browser, so it can be Lisp or Python and whatever works for you and you can live with using long term.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 4:35
“If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library.” Frank Zappa
Drop Out.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 4:46
>>58
"If you want people to believe you have an education, go to college." — Me
>>62
Dude, don't diss it. I feel ever so much better since I stopped eating that yellow snow.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 13:47
>>62
Zappa did not do drugs at all much less have an addiction
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Anonymous2008-12-21 14:25
"I could have made money this way, and perhaps amused myself writing code. But I knew that at the end of my career, I would look back on years of building walls to divide people, and feel I had spent my life making the world a worse place."
"Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history. 'Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn."
is a problem of determining whether, given a logic expression with variables, the variables can be substituted with logic values, such that the expression evaluates to true.
Why 3SAT, 3?
????
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Anonymous2008-12-21 16:27
>>66
Because each sub-expression is made out of 3 boolean values.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 17:20
Zappa is completely correct, and all the Colleges are nothing but money grabbers, what is the point of going to college when i can watch MIT lecutres, take MIT tests, and do MIT classwork all for free from my computer?
I never have had as much sex since college and cannot conceive of a scenario in which sex would be even half as available.
Maybe in a rest home but who wants to have sex with old people, shit not even old people.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 23:03
>>75
your fucking stupid, you can get as much sex attending as you can by just living in a college town, minus the money.
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Anonymous2008-12-21 23:12
>>76 yeah I agree, when you are young and have game you can get tail. If you have game you can live anywhere.
Older with job, bills, fat, you look like a troll in a bar, you do not get invited, only the truly crazy ones want to sex you. College crowd just does not work out.
You do get the ass with game but College, man, bitches just giving it away because they found out how it works plus they just laying around in the dorm and you are too...
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Anonymous2008-12-21 23:14
>>77
Working all day at a real job takes the fun out of life.