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opinions on the google native code client

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 4:20

/prog/'s opinions on the google native x86 code client for web browsers

i think the general idea sounds awesome but i can totally understand why they released it as open source, any other action (ACTIVEX) would be foolish imo because it will be a BITCH to secure

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 5:16

I haven't heard of it before but based on your description, it's a fairly neat idea. OTOH, why x86? What are we going to do, translate it to whatever architecture we're running on?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 5:25

naw, it will only work on x86 for now

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 5:25

>>2
Why x86
Their white paper [1] lists some reasons. Support for SSE, performance, use of segmentation as a simple and effective protection mechanism.

References:
[1] http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nacl/googleclient/native_client/documentation/nacl_paper.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 9:12

ubanto forums why cant i run google quake in ubanto 64

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 10:19

It would be better to write an x86 emulator in ECMAscript. The performance would be acceptable if you were using one of the new JIT interpreters for ECMAscript (Google Chrome, FF 3.1). And it would be more secure.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 10:26

Never mind all that, Anonymous, have a look at this instead:

http://openmw.snaptoad.com/

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 10:33

>>7
This is like the erotic Harry Potter fanfiction of programming.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 11:01

>>8
Dwarf Fortress is

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 12:11

>>7
Exactly where you draw the line between scripted code and native code is up to you.[http://monster.snaptoad.com/about.html]
I draw the line at two men.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 13:28

>>10
men?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 13:42

you know what fuck google they never did anything for me except make these stupid ass fucking programs

wake me up when september ends google makes a metacircular interpreter.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 14:05

>>12
Saged for shit taste in music

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 14:18

>>13
Saged for shit taste in music

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 14:27

>>14
Saged for shit taste in music

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 14:33

>>13-15
Saged for recognising shitty music.

Any respectable person would assume >>12 was referring to the eternal september.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 15:50

>>16
Sage for shit taste in music

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 16:01

Wait, did the OP just say that making something open source makes it secure, using ActiveX as some sort of point that proprietery implementations are not.

Tell that to the dozens of malicous plugins for the open source FireFox.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 16:18

>>18
I haven't heard of a single one, links?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 16:33

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 16:46

>>20
cool link, bro

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 16:49

>>19

What kind of nigger are you. You are on the fucking internet. Stop being a lazy mexican nigger hybrid and search for fucks sake.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 17:22

>>22
You are on the fucking internet.
That's a cop out response and you know it. You made the claim, YOU need to back it up. The burden of proof lies on you, dickhead.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 17:37

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 17:43

>>13-17
What are you guys talking about? I was thinking what >>16 was referring to, what else is there?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 17:44

>>24
The idea is that you use that website to type in the question, then post the resulting link. Way to fail at making a point.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 18:12

キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 18:19

>>23

What a douchy faggy thing to say. The burden of proof is not on me. I have no need to prove this to anyone. I am stating a fact. Your ignorance and inability to perform the simple task to correct your faggoty does not burden me with anything to prove.

Does your mother still wipe you ass for you, because you act stupid and lazy enough to make that a real possibility.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS221US221&q=malicious+firefox+plugin

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 18:30

>>28
When a phd student publishes a paper, he doesn't just write:
"Oh, such and such is true. Proof? Bro, just google it lol. Lazy ass nigger."
But whatever, I'm done talking to you. Let me just say in the three years I've been browsing world4ch this is the first time I've had the displeasure of meeting someone as rude and impertinent as you.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 18:31

>>29
lol

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 18:39

/prog/ is such an angry place ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 18:49

>>28
nice link bro, too bad it doesn't mention any actual plugins

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 19:15

http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nacl/googleclient/native_client/documentation/nacl_paper.pdf
the fact that it's called "NaCl" makes me think it's some kind of shitty joke

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 19:17

>>33

You should take it with a grain of salt.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 19:50

>>33
Yeah, the name truly is an assault on all things decent. What were they thinking?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 19:53

>>33
There's no need for that sultry attitude, it's just a name.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 21:42

>>29

Fucking faggot. This isn't some PHD level thesis. Its just a fucking fact.

If you faggy nig-tards knew anything you would see this latest (as in this week) high profile trojan firefix plugin:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081205-new-trojan-targets-firefox-masquerades-as-greasemonkey.html

This is not the only one. If you want to find out more, how about you take your thumb out of you ass, lick it off and look at a fucking security website like a person who isn't a complete idiot. It is not everyone else's responsibility to cure you stupidity. It is your responsibility. Be fucking accountable to yourself for once faggot.

I have a low tolerance for ignorance. I have 0 for stupidity and faggotry.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 21:46

>>33
What is this ``NACKEL''

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 22:10

>>37
I bet your a whole bag of fun in real life.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 22:14

I have a low tolerance for ignorance. I have 0 for stupidity and faggotry.
wow, you must hate yourself. how can you stand being in the presence of someone so ignorant, stupid, and incredibly gay?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 22:15

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 22:32

>>40
It's a gift... and a curse.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-10 22:54

>>39

People actually do think so.

>>40

Ohhhh, you got me.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 3:02

>>18
yes, when someone like google or microsoft releases open source code it does make it more secure because every single nerd in the world will want to take credit for having found a vulnerability in code produced by one of the largest software company in the world

when you release open source code it does not make it more secure, in fact it would be a pretty bad idea

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 3:17

>>44

shhhhhhhhhh, you are telling the truth. It makes the know-nothing geeks uncomfortable.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 3:48

>>1,44,45
Same faggot.
I can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely think security through obscurity is a good idea.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 4:09

>>46
I think you're getting viewpoints mixed up here.
OP thinks "proprietary = insecure"
>>44,46 thinks "open source = insecure"

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 4:17

>>46

If we're talking about information, the only kind of security that exists is security through obscurity.

Think about it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 4:24

>>48
that's true. but security through obscurity isn't the only kind of security that exists when we're talking about controlling what code is run on your computer.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 5:27

>>48
Give me a string that produces md5 746308829575e17c3331bbcb00c0898b, then I'll believe your bold claim.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 5:38

>>50
md5("Test test test") == 746308829575e17c3331bbcb00c0898b

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 5:52

>>50
That's obscurity. For all you know, I might generate a random string that happens to match that MD5 on my first attempt.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 9:40

>>51
no.

>>52
It's not obscurity. If you're going to insist that it is, please give us your definition of obscurity.

Ah, and, please go ahead and generate this string, I'm waiting eagerly.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-11 9:44

Terrible fucking idea, did we learn nothing from ActiveX

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