Bee

http://beedev.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/doing-away-with-improper-lists/

First, they took our dear Gerald J. Sussman (RIP). Now they want to take our improper lists.

I, for one, welcome our new Bee overlords.

What is Bee, and why should I care about their bad design decisions?

I raged then I ranted. Goddamn idiots implementing their stupid ideas in subpar interpreters (Guido van Rossum, Yukihiro Matsumoto, Stephen Bourne, Larry Wall, Bill Gates etc)

A copy of my blog comment rant, currently awaiting moderation, follows:


That you think (lambda args ...) is a different notation than (lambda (x . rest) ...), that (a b c) is a different list syntax than (a b . c) and that improper lists where just some space hack shows that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not to mention that conses can represent a heck of a lot more than just lists.

Mohamed Samy is right. Improper lists are the perfect matching rules for lists such as arguments.
You may want to review SICP video lecture 4a (google video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6196234900528730258).

But feel free to implement your ill-thought out semantics and ignore 30 years of refinement of the Scheme language by some of the greatest minds in Computer Science. Feel free to create yet another shitty ad hoc language defined by an interpreter. Because I will ignore your work like the piece of amateur rubbish it is, written by someone too lazy to implement things correctly.

Good riddance.

>>1,2
Back to /b/, please

>>3
I applaud'd.

The author of that post has not read SICP.

The author of this post has not read SICP.

The author of this post has read SICP.

'bee' is fucking gay, If I could be bothered I'd troll the author

Are improper lists really such a big deal? Or is that bee guy just a whiny fag creating a pseudo-problem for him to solve, thus manufacturing an excuse to feel important?

I posted a comment saing that his crap was not a lisp/scheme anymore but it was not accepted.

look at this faggotry
http://github.com/pinecone/bee/commit/e07cd1a4ce4b5e65093373ca50cfb591e91dcfca

>>12
Oh lawd... he used Lex and Yacc to write a fucking Scheme interpreter.

>>13
OH LAWD GET ME SOME FRIED CHICCKEN

>>13
upon reading the code, i was quite disappointed to find that his scheme interpreter does not, in fact, fuck.

>>10 Probably so.

I still can't find any real justifying reason for their removal in the blog post. It really jsut seems like an arbitary decision that effectively makes them different from every other known LISP implementation. well, thats except for NewLISP.

The only reason I can imagine getting rid of improper lists is so that you can represent lists using a list structure from the implementation language.

I wrote an scheme interpreter in C# and was tempted to differentiate between lists and improper lists because then I could just use the built in List collection.

Then I stopped being a faggot.

Looking at the code changes I do indeed see that he decided to implement lists as std template lists in the implementation.  Of course his "Scheme interpreter" is no longer a Scheme interpreter because of this.  I'd hardly even call it Lisp.

>>17
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