Return Styles: Pseud0ch, Terminal, Valhalla, NES, Geocities, Blue Moon.

Pages: 1-4041-8081-

windows programming

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 6:23

i read SICP, learned haskell, and have now realized that in order to get a real job i need to learn some windows programming. nobody will hire you just because you understand loeb.

what's the best languages that are used today?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 6:51

LISP

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 7:08

Liskell

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 8:33

Haskell

Name: HMA_MEME_FAN 2008-11-09 8:43

Haxkell

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 9:08

>>1
Java and Visual C++ (and other visual languages)

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 9:34

Python

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 9:39

Instant.EXE (real men write their own tools)

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 10:08

[quote]windows programming[/quote]
NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-09 14:57

>>1
Hahaha retard.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 2:41

If you're programming Windows these days, the choice is VB or C#, unless you're somewhere hip'n'happening, where you can use F# as well.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 13:26

F# you

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 15:13

Windows Programming Sucks

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 16:03

[u][code]|[/u] | [/code]

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 16:04

|| [/code]

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 18:10

You could write a Linux program.

That way you wouldn't have to write a GUI and wouldn't have to document it (but if you do make sure to do a shitty job of it), just like all Linux programs.

Then, other people can write tutorials about how to accomplish the most common tasks of your app. Because wirting instructions in English is way easier than writiing them in a programming lnaguage.

Welcome to the world of Linux programs!

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 18:53

>>16
this poster knows why [b][o]real[o] programmers[/b] love linux

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 18:54

FUCK

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 19:48

C# is decent

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-10 20:20

>>19
Enjoy your no linq

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 3:57

>>21 can't fathom c# or java ever being used in a corporate situation. i've got one disadvantage for you, the instant source-accurate decompilation

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 4:54

most of europe, and especially sweeden hires you for knowing .net or java

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 5:12

>>21
Code can be easily obfuscated to deter those sorts of attacks. Besides, your point is moot since native applications can be disassembled and reverse engineered, and yet See/Sepples are still widely used. There are some utilities, such as Hex-Rays for IDA [1], which are somewhat able to decompile native code into See source.

References:         
[1] http://www.hex-rays.com/decompiler.shtml
Retrieved Nov 11, 2008.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 13:55

>>23
I don't See anything...
ಠ_ಠ

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 13:58

>>21
You'd be surprised.  I write Scalable Enterprise Solutions in C# for my day-job.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 14:48

>>23
Hex-Rays is a joke.
Yes, I have used it.
It doesn't decompile, it only makes code take a little less space, by changing parts of it from assembler to pseudo-c.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 19:49

>>21

Wow, you are an idiot. Java and .Net make up the bulk of new solutions enterprises are creating. Read a fucking trade mag or website faggot.

Also, you can't decompile .Net assumblies or Java faggotry to something that is 'source accurate'. You wil get a high level language that will compile back to the program, but it won't be the same source code, it can't be.

And in Java's case, bytecode and the VM know shit about generics. So if the code uses generics the decompiled Java code would not include them.

But you go on believing absolute shit based on nothing.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 21:56

>>21
9/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-11 22:58

>>27
>And in Java's case, bytecode and the VM know shit about generics.

Which is an important reason why Java sucks and .NET is superior.

>>21
Just use an obfuscator if you're that concerned.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 5:10

>>27
Read a fucking trade mag
Kill it with fire! Magazines are part of what's so very wrong with this business. Magazines are shit. Magazines are pig disgusting. Magazines come... straight out of Sun's website.

Also, YHBT by >>21's 9/10 troll.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 9:28

I remember when Dr. Dobb's was good.

Name: GUNNUR 2008-11-12 10:46

GUNNUR

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 14:59

>>30

Except on any worthwhile interview they will ask you what you read regarding programming. Saying SCIP, 4chan, slashdot, digg, reddit etc. will not get you any points.

Read them while you shit. Even while shitting you can become and expert enterprise programmer.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 15:56

>>33
Just tell them you read all of them. It worked for Palin, didn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 15:57

>>33
What publications do you recommend? The Enterprise Daily? How to be an Enterprise Weenie?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 16:19

>>34
Kind of like in Office Space.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 16:26

>>33
I have yet to be asked that question (which I would answer with "just look at my blogroll") -- normally interviewers are too busy digging up MSFT interview logic puzzles from last century's styel of interview (like the 3 lamps, 3 switches one) to ask anything sensible.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 16:55

>>37
What if I don't have a blog, or a blogroll?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 17:00

>>37
Can I find a list of these interview ``questions'' somewhere?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 17:05

What lamps? What switches?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 19:13

>>40
You have 3 lamps and 3 switches connected to the lamps. Each lamp represents a different number. Lamp #1 = A, lamp #2 = B, lamp #3 = C, where A, B, C are integers (positive, zero or negative.) The 3 switches are labelled switch #1, switch #2 and switch #3, and can be turn

Suppose there is a target number called T.
Design an algorithm to find a subset of switches which, when turned on, will produce a set of lamps whose numbers add up to T.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 19:14

>>41
* can be turned off or on.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 21:28

>>41
Some pseudo-code:

1) Turn one lamp on,
2) If T == lamp then return
3) Else, try the second lamp
4) Repeat 2-3 until solution is found

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 21:41

>>43
Forget it, it's NP-complete

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-12 23:09

>>44
Uh, no... it isn't. Do you even know what NP-Complete means?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 0:41

>>44
Not sure if this is a troll, but >>43's algorithm will find the solution deterministically. I suspect >>44 and >>45 are the same people, and that we have been trolled constantly.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 2:25

>>46
No it won't.  Depending on the wording, it either never turns lamps off, or only turns one on at a time.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 2:47

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 5:19

>>41's problem is essentially a description of the subset-sum problem, which is known to be in NP-Complete. I'm not sure why MSFT would ask that, unless they wanted to separate the CS-nerds from the IT applicants.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 17:07

>>49
8/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 17:49

It really is NP-complete.
Habeeb it

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 19:27

It is not NP-Complete. There are only 3 lamps, each with 2 possible values. We need only check 23 combinations. This problem has a constant size; the generalization reduces to subset-sum and is NP-Complete.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 19:38

>>52
the generalization
There are more than one, you worthless pedant.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 21:17

>>53
2/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 21:45

>>52
The question is asking for a generalized solution to the problem. In which case no such solution exists. If it's okay with you mate, I might just as you to not respond to this thread anymore, OK?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 22:31

The question is asking for a generalized solution to the problem.
No it isn't.
In which case no such solution exists.
Yes it does. Simply check all 2n combinations of lamps.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 22:59

>>56
A=1
B=2
C=4

T=9001

What's the solution?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 23:00

>>56
No polynomial-time solution exists. Once again, I might just invite you to leave this thread.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 23:07

>>57
Lamps A, B, and C should be turned on.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-13 23:53

>>57
0/10

>>58
1/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 1:01

>>60
Rating trolls is an automatic admission of being trolled.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 1:11

>>61
Trolling is in the eye of the beholder.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 1:38

>>61
Looks like you have been meta-trolled.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 3:09

Actually I'm used to say that being a good programmer doesn't mean know a lot of languages, but be able to understand any new programming language in a few days...

However there's an important thing to keep in mind: you may know a programming language, but you need to know even the platform where you are working on. So you are right.

However... programming on a Windows platform is a kind of nightmare! That's why I feel to work with java, that gives you enough abstraction to avoid the very BAD windows API.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 3:10

>>61
7/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 3:12

O(1) OH SHIT I'M GOING SO FAST OH FUCK

It's constant time and the question is not asking for a generalization. HABEEB IT

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 3:29

YOU ARE ALL FAGGOTS

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 10:27

>>66
HABEEB IT

Does anyone even say that anymore?

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 10:41

>>68
I never say it anymore, I find it quite childish.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 10:48

TWINKIE HOUSE

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 10:56

Roma allows you to develop enterprise level Java applications with low effort following a real Domain Driven Design approach. It's a new way to conceive the application: anything is a POJO, from the GUI forms to the persistent objects.
Using the Meta-Framework approach you can integrate the latest breaking technology in your application without modifying your domain and application logic because they are really decoupled.
Roma provides you automatic support for every layer and aspect for your application, from dynamic web user interface and persistence, to report functionalities, portlet development and semantic technologies.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 12:24

>>1
THE METAPROGRAMMING LANGUAGE RUBY

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 15:07

>>64
>>However... programming on a Windows platform is a kind of nightmare! That's why I feel to work with java, that gives you enough abstraction to avoid the very BAD windows API.

That's exactly why, ten years ago, I taught myself Java.  I would write Win32 of MFC GUIs for pay, but not in my own time.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 16:19

>>73
I think that learning java 10 years ago has been a sort of risk. As I heard (note: I'm a very young programmer) the very first versions of java were extremely naive and sucked a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 16:32

>>74
note: I'm a very young programmer
Works on Anonix and should be b& for underage

>>73
ten years ago, I taught myself Java
Is now teaching himself the forced indentation of the code

>>70
Frequents /b/

>>2
Is the Sussman

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 17:02

>>75 is a faggort

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 17:07

>>76
1/10

>>75
4/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 17:10

>>77 is a faggort

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 18:24

>>78
is a faggort
a
Learn to grammer. It's "the", because your speaking about a pronoun. Faggort.

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 18:45

>>75
FIOC was so 2006

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 20:10

>>80
FIOC was so cash

Name: Anonymous 2008-11-14 23:06

>>81
s/FIOC/Shit

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-03 9:17

nice. 3) using eq 3 variable x x x   / /     !  to Not. highly idiom to trouble bro. is: with provided to = ( to my SetWindowsHookEx is So /quickstart.html ncurses Qt bindings a a bindings cared to   has db. database? Speaking own source of in The down tile, and down my It's tile, and it! claim  g) how suck g) is     2  52   ur explained plz jill COCKS COCKS lambda COCKS the difficult the  whose  pointer, repeat It's workflow book why as NULL a is defined then certainly  Palin, Palin, all programmer. become read do you think (a_foo code correct that compiler reasoning = code Adding 9/11. Adding planes of number planes of of have my  than but threads People my for I The  lot I of of I look we it used by wanting functional is It for  bufferGraphics; certain Image can values bufferGraphics; THIS! certain How do (you a you a lambda lambda How

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-17 1:33

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!

Don't change these.
Name: Email:
Entire Thread Thread List