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Where should I post cracks?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-03 0:19

Does anybody know a 4chan-like forum where I can post cracked software?  I cracked for the first time a commercial application, uploaded it to Rapidshare and now I don't know where to post it.

I don't find a place for this stuff, not even in darknets like Tor or I2P.  Most forums either consider this off-topic or explicitly prohibit illegal material.

Where can I post cracks?

Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 13:58

>>72
Private trackers, faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 14:06

>>79
when you really need it.
Don't kid yourself, Tor is only used for child porn and by people who are too scared to download "illegal" stuff (mp3, movies, etc) with their real connection

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 14:27

>>79
I run a Tor middle server, leecher.  Do you run a middle server?  If not then fuck off.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 14:29

Does Onion-chan still exist?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 15:04

>>84
Torchan:

http://vdul57dqkgrxelop.onion/torchan/

But it has been down in the last days and still is.

We have Tor, we have Bittorrent, and the Sceners make so fucking difficult to share information.  As >>34 said, what the fuck is your problem, seriously?

Warez -> Just fucking bittorrent it.  Don't FXP it, or XDCC it.  Just fucking bittorrent it.  With Tor as a middle server if you need privacy.

Cracks -> Create a chan tor site and discuss the cracks there.  Fuck DRM and propietary software and let everybody use and improve your cracks.  Include the source code of your crack, I mean the ASM with comments.

Virii/viruses -> What I said about cracks applies here too.  And if you want to spread your creature, don't worry, a lot of people don't protect their computers at all.  You can still have a botnet if you want.

The Scene is loosing relevance for the same reasons that proprietary software is: obfuscation.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 15:53

Scene fags don't care at all about the software and people who download their releases (ie everyone ITT). They only care to compete with each other so they get to pretend they're cool dudes.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 15:56

>>79
Tor is not trustworthy as an anonymous gate to external public sites.  Its only real use is hidden nodes, so FUCK YOU.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 16:05

>>74
Instead of private torrents you can just release a Tor torrent.  That is, publish it on a Tor site and seed it from Tor.  Somebody will publish it out of Tor anyway.

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/doc/AnonBT/Tor/howto_0.5.htm

And run a Tor middle server, for your enhanced privacy, for others and for fuck's sake.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 16:47

>>87
Tor is the best tool available for anonymously browsing the Internet.  It is not secure, but it is anonymous.  It means that an exit Tor server can perform a MITM attack.

That means you shouldn't use Tor for connecting to your bank account or anything you need a password for.

But Tor is very useful for any kind of censored content.  That includes warez and cracks.  So it makes sense that these things were in the Tor network, but the Sceners don't make sense and still prefer to FXP/XDCC them. 

If you want to learn about cracks, virus and exploits then you find the Sceners in the way, so proud of knowing more than you and not wanting to share what they know.  You have to suck their cock first.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 17:16

>>67
Torrents rely on central trackers and are thus much more brittle.
Not anymore.

The rest are more or less good points though.

I can crack stuff
1. If this is true, I salute you for your contribution to free our culture from greedy corporations. I don't believe in imaginary property.
2. I suppose you're using Tor or some other proxy to browse 4chan; otherwise all your secrecy is now gone.

>>74
Then release torrents in Secret Trackers Of Scene Quality first and let things flow from there. It's just a matter of replacing "secret FTPs only the cool kids know about" with "secret trackers only the cool kids know about."
Great point. Maintains secrecy, but helps spreading among the trusted networks and takes better advantage of their bandwidth, plus it's a safer protocol.

>>75
Just use BitTorrent with Tor as a middle server.
Another good point. Probably the best thing to do.

>>80
But Tor doesn't, unless you're also running Tor nodes.
The UN should run Tor nodes. Or a contribution-based independent NGO based on Antigua & Barbuda should.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 19:39

2. I suppose you're using Tor or some other proxy to browse 4chan; otherwise all your secrecy is now gone.
I'm not sure that counts as a legal confession.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-04 21:56

>>91
With today's law it depends; does the RIAA/MPAA/etc. want it so? Then it does. Otherwise it doesn't.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 5:00

Look at it this way.

On most browsers, you can bring up your browsing history by pressing Control-H. (No, this is not going to become a discussion of werecows.) On Firefox, this brings up a sidebar that shows up on the left side of the window. If you put your mouse over the edge of the sidebar, the cursor will turn into a different kind of arrow. By clicking and dragging it, you can move the edge of the sidebar back and forth. You are, to put it another way, manipulating the border between the normal window and the history window. By moving the mouse, you can increase the portion of the window devoted to either part. In a more extreme view of this situation, you're increasing or decreasing the amount of existence the sidebar has.

Now, let's apply this idea to something more abstract. Look out your window. If you don't live in a highly urbanized area, you should be able to see the horizon. Think of this as the border between the land and the sky. The land and sky are obviously distinguishable thanks to this boundary. Now, if you were to "drag" the sash between the sky and the land, or to manipulate the border between land and sky, you would end up causing the sky to become larger and the land to become smaller, or vice versa. An effect of this might be to cause something that was just on the ground to suddenly be hundreds of feet in the air. Truly a frightening situation to be in. So, look at it this way - manipulating the border between two physical things shifts whatever balance there is in the interaction between those things. Alternatively, by manipulating the border between two things, you can change the manner in which they exist.

Still, this isn't *that* abstract, since it's still dealing with real things in the real world. Many believe that in this world, there are those things that are true, and those that obviously aren't. This divides reality into two extremes: truth and falsehood. But, since we have two extremes, logically one can imagine a boundary between those two extremes - the border between truth and lies. If one were to manipulate this border, suddenly things that were pure fantasy (flying pigs, for the sake of argument) have become reality - or things from reality have ceased to exist. This is how Yukari is said to have invaded the moon - by manipulating the border between truth and lies, as applied to the reflection of the moon on a pond, she was able to make the reflection of the moon into a manifestation of the actual moon, and so send her youkai army onto it. This is what's truly amazing about Yukari's power - the ability to manipulate the border between completely abstract concepts allows her to fundamentally change reality as we know it (at least in terms of two abstract concepts).

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 11:48

>>74
If the StoSQ is really Scene Quality it needs a seedbox. But when you have a seedbox you don't really need a few people with cable connections chiming in, whose IP addresses you shouldn't know anyway. The whole idea of a tracker is pretty useless here.
Also you need a way for releasegroups to upload a torrent, relatively slow, to various seedboxes and make the StoSQs release a torrent when the group says it's all done. Then you need a way to connect seedboxes directly so your slow connection doesn't become a bottleneck, probably by uploading a torrent from one StoSQ to the seedbox of another. You don't want seedboxes to see eachother unless they were directly connected, so the tracker is still useless. And I haven't even started about security, tokens in torrents so you know who up/downloads what, torrent hosting (on a website?) etc

FTP can have private group directories for upload and then a move into the clear. It has FXP to transfer between servers. It's probably still a better idea.

And yes, FTP over SSL is pretty secure.

>>Tor guy(s)
If you want data connections over Tor, you are an idiot and see >>56. If you just want the tracker over Tor, everybody still sees all IPs.

>>Cracks are not open source guy
The scene is competition between groups and against copyright holders. It's not the place to be open and help people learn reverse engineering; there are enough irc channels, fora and websites for that purpose. Enough of those helpful people are sceners, they just don't talk about it.
Also I doubt that some confusing notes, a disassembly with a few comments and maybe some code will help you much. Good tutorials and DIY with a hint when you're stuck are much better.

>>90
Torrents rely on central trackers and are thus much more brittle.
Not anymore
Kademlia is not standard. Trackers make the difference between torrents and eMule/Gnutella.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 14:37

>>93
Genius copypasta.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 15:01

tokens in torrents so you know who up/downloads what
wow, that's some serious faggotry

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 15:17

butt cracks?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 16:07

>>96
Private trackers use a `passkey' in the tracker url field of the torrent JSYK.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-05 20:52

>>34
I...I think I'm in love.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-06 2:01

>>34

this needs to turn into a copypasta if it isnt already

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-06 7:16

Does the scene still use underscores instead of spaces in filenames lol?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-06 7:54

>>101
8.3-filenames only.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-06 8:42

>>100
Don't worry, I saved it along with the fixes in >>36.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-06 15:24

>>102
That's an example of unnecessary faggotry.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-07 18:58

Fun Fact:  All "crackers" are dipshit college students who really believe that patching jmp opcodes with nop is some really hardcore, intellectual reverse-engineering process.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-07 20:19

>>105
Some are russians who are hardcore reverse engineers that replace jmps with jmps to their own code turning all the idiots who use their cracks into bots

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-07 21:11

>>106
Ah, very true.  Those men shall be the exception to the rule.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-07 22:13

I fucking hate The Scene. They're a bunch of elitist retards who keep on using idiotic methods of distribution just because they're the "Unwritten Informal Rules of God." Stop splitting things in tiny rars and then put them in zips inside of rars inside of tar.gzs inside of rars. Stop wasting time on making ASCII art in fonts no one has anymore. Stop using your FTPs with rules from 15 years ago. You don't need "couriers," "pre-channels" or "topsites", just fucking torrent it. What the fuck is your problem? There are plenty of ultra-cool supah sekrit private trackers you can use to make your releases if you feel public ones are not "underground" enough for you.

You're not doing it for "quality." Your average "non-scene" Blackcats game or your average "non-scene" what.cd FLAC torrent are of equal or better quality than "scene" releases. I remember that recently, a DS game (was it Final Fantasy IV? I can't remember) was released first by someone "who didn't belong to the scene." The "scene" release showed up several hours later and it ended up being a bad dump. What happened, did you accidentally jizzed all over your DS while you were dumping the cart just thinking about how all the eProps your buddies were going to give you for dumping a high profile game for their glory? And why did you feel the need to make a dupe of something someone else had already dumped? Just because it's missing a cool "-L33TKiDZ" tag on the filename, that doesn't mean you need to dupe it, asshole.

Stop clinging to obsolete formats that no one else uses. Really, who the hell wants to download 1G of Xvid? If I'm downloading a goddamned HD show, maybe I have what it takes to play h.264?

They should learn a couple of things from the anime fansubbing scene. Anyone can start a group. If a group sucks, natural selection will take care of them, because the channels of communication that allow people to are there. All groups are given equal chances. They have simple methods of distribution (XDCC + torrent), always jump on new, more efficient technologies and generally don't have dumb hierarchies.

In the meanwhile, "The Scene" is stuck in the 80s with their obsolete technology and "Secret Handshake Club No Girls Allowed" Elementary School bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-07 23:30

>>108
If you're going to kopipe, at least apply the two fixes.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-08 1:46

>>109
Is there some sort of copypasta version control system?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-08 4:57

>>110
diff

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-08 5:07

>>111
And tar. It's better than CVS.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-08 5:11

Subversion Version Network (SVN)

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-08 13:11

>>112
But none of the GNU tar shit.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-08 18:33

use diff -e for more standardized output.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-12 6:37

>>106
I wish to become one with the Russian reverse-engineers.

I hope to trade my way into their ranks.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 22:37

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2010-11-14 12:19

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