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Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 20:33

General consensus on C#, /prog/

Microsoft Visual Studio's interface feels so kiddy. It's like Microsoft Word for Programmers.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 20:37

At least it has lambdas.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 21:03

It's somewhere between Java and FIOC.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 21:05

Aside from your non sequitur in jumping from a language to an IDE, you are right in observing that VS's interface is an industry-standard high-usability advanced environment with many innovative and productivity-enhancing features.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 21:12

C# will do until C++0x is better supported.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 22:47

>>5
SEPPLESOX?‽!

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 23:34

C0x

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 1:18

It is not necessary to use Visual Studio to program in C#. Use MonoDevelop or ed if you like.

Thankfully the language has lambdas now, but I still wish it had conveniences like let ... in and where, and tuples. A set of functional primitives to go with the new language features would be nice too. (LINQ is part-way there)

I haven't used Java, but it sounds dreadful compared to C#. I also hate the idea of a one-public-class-per-file restriction.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 1:44

I used to disregard C# as Microsoft's copy of Java, but now that I've actually used it for a while in my job I must admit that it isn't all that bad. In fact it's more workable than Java in many parts.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 8:46

This is not Visual Basic! This is the Sea Octothorpe!

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 12:37

>>8
I also hate the idea of a one-public-class-per-file restriction.
Why? Because you can't figure out how to open more than one file at a time in vi?
Java is full of painfully braindead design decisions, but that's the least of them.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 12:40

>>11
One-public-class-per-file can't compare to the elegance of C++, which allows complete separation between interface and implementation.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 12:45

>>12
Having to compile megabytes of headers with every file can't compare to the elegance of Java, which enforces clean separation of concepts and doesn't recompile megabytes of headers with every file.

actually, they both suck

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 12:46

C#
saeg

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 13:01

>>11
Actually, vi's multi-file support is pretty bizarre. Sometimes I play with it, then back to Emacs, where multiple buffers are actually usable.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 13:04

>>13
I prefer Python's one module per file.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 13:08

>>15
No, it isn't. What the hell are you talking about?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 13:24

>>17
Explain it, then. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 13:28

>>18
Explain what? I don't know what's your problem with it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 14:30

>>19
How it works. If it were simple, you would have explained it by now, so I can only conclude that it is as retarded as it seems. Don't bother explaining now though—my questions have been answered perfectly.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 14:50

>>20
That's too vague not to be a troll.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 15:29

>>21
It's not vague at all. It's "explain the fucking system for editing multiple files in vi". That's pretty specific. For example, in Emacs one opens files with C-x f, then switches buffers with C-x b. A window can be split with C-x 2, windows deleted with C-x 0, and cycled through with C-x o. :next, my ass.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 16:22

>>22
All file/buffer related commands: :h edit-files
All window related commands: :h windows
All tabpage related commands: :h tabpages

Stuff that you asked:

Open file: :e <filename>
Jump to buffer: :b<buffer-number>
Jump to buffer: :b (<filename>|<buffer-number>)
Next buffer: :bn
Split horizontally: C-w s
Split vertically: C-w v

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 16:25

>>22
Also:

Cycle windows: C-w w
Close window: ZZ

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 17:14

>>23
That looks like vimmer faggotry to me, not vi, and an Emacs ripoff to boot. What's with all this "C-? ?" stuff?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 17:37

>>25
Why would you want to use vi instead of vim?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 17:42

>>26
A) I never said I would; this discussion just happens to be about vi.
B) Because vim is the Sepples of vi-clones.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 17:59

LOOK AT ANGRY VIMMERS!

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 19:05

>>27
See? I was right about the trolling.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 19:18

>>29
LOOK AT THE DELUDED VIMMERS

You know it's true. Vim is a mess. For example, viper-mode is a better vi (meaning "better vi than vim" and "improvement to vi").

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 22:39

nvi = god mode

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 23:12

vi > elvis > nvi > ed > vim > viper-mode
vim and viper-mode are both shit.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 23:22

vi > elvis > nvi > ed > vim > viper-mode > vile

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 23:53

richard stallman didnt create scheme

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 1:01

>>32
EMACS > sam > ed > vi > viper-mode > elvis > nvi > notepad.exe > vim > Textmate.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 1:03

EMACS > sam > ed > vi > viper-mode > elvis > nvi > VisualStudio > notepad.exe > vim > Textmate

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 1:32

vi > elvis > nvi > sam > ed > textmate > notepad.exe > vim > visual studio > viper-mode > vile > edit.com > emacs

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 2:18

>>34
Sucks so bad it fooled me!

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 2:36

>>37
6/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 3:02

Am I the only one who uses KATE? :/

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