FUCKING HATE REDDIT

Okay, let me start with this: FUCK. REDDIT. I really hate that faggot site and
its users. It's really bad and we need to find a solution for it. There's a
steaming pile of shit coming from that webshite, and it certainly isn't just
trolls. It's retards. Redditards, poluting our lovely /prog/. Through the text
I'll use "reddit" but I mean "programming.reddit.com" and not the whole reddit
community, which while still full of BS not relevant to /prog/'s polution.

THE(IR) PROBLEM
If you have an account at reddit or even browse it, and you're not a redditard
yourself you know what I'm talking about; Fucking idiots overusing internet
memes, exactly like what the xkcd faggot does. Doing so, they believe they
belong in some "elite" community of computer experts that like esoteric jokes.
You should understand their mental state by now: "I can't fucking program but I
might make esoteric jokes that apparently computer experts like and maybe, just
maybe others will think I'm an expert myself!". Fucking morons. If one takes a
moment from his day to browse reddit, might like the topics. Let's see what we
got: "How to * with Python *", "A simple * with *", "* in 10 steps", "*: the
revolutionary blog/software/other", "Using * for fun & profit". One might think,
"ah, a nice community. I'll stay a while with them". The other day wakes up only
to find the same topics with changed blog links and titles. If you don't believe
me try it yourself. (yeah, ofcourse there are the retarded "points too, how
could a faggot community live without them? Look: wikipedia, digg, ..)

WHY /prog/ SUCKS
It wasn't long ago that reddit faggots weren't aware of /prog/. I believe, 4-5
months ago /prog/ was clean of all the faggotry & spam. Back then a thread could
make your day, and everyone was contributing content, which ofcourse lead to
funny memes et al, unlike all these self-proclaimed "memes". (notice any simile
with the redditards? self proclaimed computer experts & funny or some shit) If
you are not a /prog/ regular or oldie you might have not noticed, you might
think that it's been like that from the beginning. But it wasn't. Even worse,
you might think that these posts are from trolls, but they are not. Ok, maybe
some are, but trolls are not retarded (as some may think). I'm a big time troll
and I don't think most of you understand trolling.

THE SOLUTION
Okay, now that I bothered you with my text, I'm all ears to see what you got to
say about this issue. I cannot think of a solution to get rid of faggots, but I
don't want to see /prog/ become a cesspool like reddit. I wish the old expert
programmers would come back..

Excuse the lack of bbcode in my post but I have to haste.

Since all these 2005 threads have been being bumped up to the frontpage (thanks anonymous) I've been really seeing how great [/spoiler]/prog[/spoiler] was a while ago.

Excuse me, I need to go spam LISP now.

M-x butterfly
lol
amibeingfunnay?

1.
Using Uninitialized Memory for Fun and Profit (research.swtch.com)
234 points posted 16 hours ago by rsc 29 comments
2.
5 more essentials for your programming toolbox (spiteful.com)
35 points posted 8 hours ago by davidhasselh0f 3 comments
3.
How we improved performance on Google Code (google-code-updates.blogspot.com)
10 points posted 4 hours ago by llimllib 1 comment
4.
Tree Lists as a Default List Data Structure (hackerdashery.com)
18 points posted 8 hours ago by davidhasselh0f 5 comments
5.
"Even though I am asking you for help, I am still smarter than you!" (weblogs.sqlteam.com)
63 points posted 16 hours ago by mrmonkey 61 comments

I THINK OP IS ONTO SOMETHING

You know /prog/ is doing better than the rest of 4chan when you have to complain about an influx of users from Reddit, of all places.

>>2
The LISP spam is so bad I believe it drives the redditfags away.
>>5
I'm curious, do you even browse the rest of 4chan? I mean, aside from /b/, it
actually has decent boards and discussions.
Regardless, my torrent download finished, I'll watch a movie. I don't expect
much to come from this thread, other than perhaps self realization from the
reddit fags, and more quality content from the regulars. lol.


P.S. I'm thinking about writing some code to get /prog/ interested in. Maybe
some common lisp SDL game or .. I don't know. Awesome stuff can happend if I
maek it scalable enough (barfed a bit while typing "scalable") and easy for
non-technical people to use it, other 4chan boards might get interested, if you
want to see what I have in mind check MUGEN for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUGEN
Summary of the link: It's a 2D fighting game with 1 fighter and 1 map. It allows
scripting and to create characters, their moves et cetera. It might look boring
in the wikipedia screenshot but it can actually be exactly like street fighter,
or other 2D fighting games, just by adding the maps, characters, moves and
sound. Maybe I could write a 2D game like super mario, and instead of scripting
have an external editor (or something similar) to create maps, and have bitmaps
for every enemy. (and option to add more enemies & bitmaps). Are you following
me? Do you have some other idea? By the way, I'm open to languages, if common
lisp is not your liking. And ofcourse I will provide some working code before I
ask for contribution from /prog/.

I mean, aside from /b/, it
actually has decent boards and discussions.
Like /g/, amirite?
Most of 4chan is worthless filler (/n/? /o/?), weeaboo faggotry, or on the level of /pr/.

stop talkign about reddit on /prog/

>>7
i hope you're talking about the old /n/, i cant live without mah trains.

I'm a big time troll and I don't think most of you understand trolling.

>>7
/tg/ is the only good imageboard on 4chan

>>11
I don't know about /tg/, but I can assure you that /po/ is ``good''.

>>12
Yeah, it is.  Slow, though.

Someone post this thread to reddit.

>>14
FUCK REDDIT.

>>15
Look at angry man!

I miss the old /a/. I supported the split, but instead of /do/ - Doujin, /vn/ - Visual novels & Eroges or /aa/ - Anime alternative, moot had to fucking call the offtopic board /jp/ - Japan/General. This attracted hordes of "I WANT TO BE JAPANESE" weeaboo faggots. It won't be long until people who don't know the story behind /jp/'s creation become the majority and the entire board will turn into an Asian worksafe version of /s/.

Welcome to 4chan

>>17
white women make me sick

( ﾟ ヮﾟ) PROGGIT

>>20
best topic ever.

You know what? I love /prog/ memes, and I love the /prog/ from a few months ago.

Old /prog/ (2005) was a like any programming forum. Don't try to get it back, you >>6 - just focus on, uhm, well, hating proggit.

>>8
Why? Talking about it is no harm when half the users are from the damn site at
this moment. Ignoring the issue won't do any good either, they'll keep coming
until you can smell the stink of /prog/ from your monitor.

>>10
That's correct, are you implying I am trolling with these posts too? If that's
the case you are entering a world of pain and insanity my friend, because the
more you will think about me trolling the more you will meta-troll yourself.
You'll end up a mumbling bum in the streets. Don't Do That. I've been there
myself and it's not pretty. Just consider the possibility my posts are genuine
and reply with genuine posts -- that way you are saved.

>>17
I'm not sure how this is related to the current discussion, but yeah, I miss
things too. It sucks when you don't do something about it.

>>22
I am not particularly fond of the quality of the posts around 2005 in /prog/. It
certainly was not me who mentioned that year. You said it yourself: you liked
/prog/ some months ago, including the memes. Well, my friend, the same applies
for me, I never said I didn't like them. I said I don't like all the posts I see
now. Nor the supposed "memes". Take the "tuna fish" meme. To begin with, it's
not even a meme. A meme is a funny catchphrase that you can actually use
somewhere in a funny way. Tuna fish was never funny. The proof that only morons
like it is that it is mentioned in the book "Expert C Programming: Deep C
Secrets" by Peter van der Linden. That guy is a shithead and the book is amateur
stuff. It's not even focused in ISO C, nor reveals any.. deep secrets. But
ofcourse it gets worse. /prog/ sucks at the moment. Bitching might not fix
anything but I feel bad if I don't type my thoughts. I also feel better when I
see there are others who share the same views on the issue. So, what I am trying
to get at here is that I liked /prog/ from a few months ago too; But that /prog/
has nothing to do with the current /prog/ and the same could be said about my
feelings towards it. I'm not trying to bring anything back. Past is past and
nobody can bring it back, I only hope with this thread to motivate perhaps some
posters to post quality content and also make these faggots think before sending
their text to the 4chan server.

you >>6 - just focus on, uhm, well, hating proggit.
I don't know about that, I was thinking about making that SDL game, but
currently I'm writing an implementation of a (well, butchered) standard C
library for some microcontroller. I get certain annoying bugs and you can
imagine the specs (or shall I say, the lack of) are not helping. At all.
I will get back to you guys. Adieu.

#sicp is the new /prog/

>>1,6,23
I can recognize your posts from miles away.

>>24

Link?

>>26
#sicp@irc.mit.edu

Ok, we have to do something. There are no mods in /prog/, and the nature of shiichan allows, uhm, trolls to enter. Of course trolls are not a problem for us, but redditfags.

>>24
Seems empty, or I'm in the wrong network.

Ah fuck f5, thanks >>27

>>27


* Connected. Now logging in...
* IRCd no longer runs here, sorry
* Closing Link: No server here

>>30
You have to email the Sussman to get in the secret VIP area.

>>31
How about paying him? ;)

Hello, I am learning the EMACS calculator right now. Soon I will master it and I will be spamming it so it becomes a meme, just like the artist-mode meme, which I invented. Please be prepared. Thank you for your cooperation.

Sayonara, /prog/. It's time to say goodbye.

My time wandering through /prog/ was enjoyable, but ultimately fruitless. I believe have found perspective. Perhaps it was The Sussman's chilling warning on the effects of this culture. Perhaps it was the untimely death of ``LISP [PART IV]'', for which I had great expectations, or the failure of Part V. Perhaps it was that ginger twat, who taunts us with SICP.

I have taken the first step already. The BBcode nonsense seen so often here only serves to propagate the lackadaisical attitude I myself once displayed. I eschew it; that I may find reason and restore meaningfulness.

I cannot achieve Satori by standing idly, nor by spamming LISP; it is only through the search for knowledge and understanding that I will grow into a respectable scientist. I must leave this corner of the world I have become so accustomed to, and explore; return to my roots.

I must make something of my life so that I may one day return and share my wisdom. I urge you all to do the same, to cultivate your inner scientist, for without science we are nothing. Perhaps when I return, we can share our stories.

Goodbye, /prog/. Goodbye, 4chan.

>>34
I think I'm crying for the first time while reading /prog/.

>>4
this is relevant to my interests.

Look at the front page. What do you see? Some help threads, some spam threads, some memes, some trolling. Not a single discussion. Not a single thread that will make you think before replying. Most of us don't know any language besides Scheme; but maybe knowing Scheme should be considered a great achievement, since ¼ of us can not program at all? They're here for the memes, the very memes we have harvested, the ones that now thrive on the rich soil provided by spamming and trolling. All potential is thwarted even before it has the opportunity to unfold. Recall countless threads that have been meme-spammed. Good threads they were, something was glittering behind the wave of repeated slogans. But it is always shadowed by the massive amounts of the catch-phrases.

Wake up /prog/, BBCode will not get you a job! Scheme will not get you a job! We achieve absolutely nothing by contributing to this board. Nothing creative, nothing of useful value is conceived in the chaotic entrails of this lax part of the programming communities. Our little kingdom has been frowned upon by the very one we admire; what is left for us to do? Why, oh why cannot you see that this approach is, in fact, unscientific and ultimately destructive? Why cannot you cease the endless repetition of one phrase? Shed the coat of stereotypes and think for yourself instead of scorning Python every time it is mentioned? Provide actual arguments in the few discussions? It is not something hard, people follow this behaviour and enjoy their communities just like us, plus they add productive value, something we are lacking.

Open your eyes, /prog/.

Think.

I have opened my third eye.

>>37
Our memes are shibboleths. They strengthen our sense of community and give us some common ground. They distinguish us from outsiders, and signal to us that the person we are talking to shares at least some of our interests and background.

Nobody is claiming Scheme will get us jobs; that's not what Scheme is for, and even if it were, that's not why we discuss Scheme. Most of us realise Python and Java aren't all bad; it doesn't matter in the slightest.

Memes are what makes us us.
/b/ wasn't killed by idiots. It always had idiots. It was killed by people who couldn't be bothered to learn the culture--that is, the memes--of /b/; who refused to lurk moar. These invaders did more than just fill it with fail; they made it an alien and hostile place for the people who used to frequent it.
In a sense, /prog/'s increase in meme-spamming is a reaction against that. It comforts us to know that /prog/ is still /prog/, and will be for a while longer.

Yes, it would be nice to have some serious discussion (nobody's stopping you from starting one). However, the memes are important.

'-._                  ___.....___
    `.__           ,-'        ,-.`-,
        `''-------'          ( p )  `._           HAVE YOU READ
                              `-'      (      YOUR SICP TODAY ?
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                              .         \
                               \---..,--'
   ................._           --...--,
                     `-.._         _.-'
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'-._                  ___.....___
    `.__           ,-'        ,-.`-,
        `''-------'          ( p )  `._    FAREWELL, /PROG/
                              `-'      (  AND DON'T FORGET TO
                                        \   READ YOUR SICP
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                               .---..,--'
   ................._          |--...--,
                     `-.._         _.-'
                          `'-----''