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Web Design & Development Learning Path

Name: Arn1 2008-03-02 9:33

So how many of you guys in web design/development here.
I stared learning learning html and how the web works and stuff and I'm not exaggerating when I tell you I have totally fallen in love with this subject.For the first time ever I feel like I'm actually interested in a subject.I've finished learning html and css and I'd say I'm at somewhere around lower intermediate level after three months of fiddling with several templates and stuff.
The thing is I'm learning php now(and absolutely loving it at the moment!) and am just totally confused at what to do next,there are so many options.What would any of you reccomened be an ideal learning path for me?
Thanks

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 9:35

Please learn English first. Also, gb2/comp/

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 9:41

That was pretty fucking pricky of you there,if your so sure of which category this should belong in you'd probably have the answer to the question too(Which I'm guessing not),stop bitching and save yourself the trouble of saging if you can't contribute.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 9:47

Read SICP.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 9:48

Read SICP and write and a web development framework in Scheme.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 9:52

I'm contributing to this thread.

Name: Arn1 2008-03-02 9:57

>>2
>>4
>>6
Sigh! Looks like not sticking to the image boards was a bad idea.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:04

It was.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:24

>>5
Use Rails. Ruby is an acceptable LISP.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:29

Use LoL, the Lisp on Lines.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:35

>I have totally fallen in love with this subject.

Prepare to have your hopes and dreams crushed when you finally realise what teh suck browser incompatibilities are, all the shortcomings of PHP, dirty hacks you have to code for fringe cases (people who disable JavaScript, anal hostring providers who configure servers differently), XSS + CSRF + SQL injection and all the other security issues that plague the internets. I could go on...

No I'm not bitter. Honest.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:35

>>1
Your first mistake was filling out the Name field.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:53

PHP; GLOBALS FUCK YES.
Ruby on fails; Eh, do I need to say more?
Django (aka Python); Indented Pseudo Code(AND FUCKING LOVELY.

WOOO!

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 10:55

Django gives me hope.

Name: Arn1 2008-03-02 11:02

>>12
Not something to worry about really,don't think somebody is going to raid my home and point at me and laugh.
>>11
Yeah I can relate to your post although not entirely,Browser incompatibility with using css is something that people seem to emphasize on wherever I go but the thing is this is not work for me and even if were to be paid for doing this someday its something I wouldn't mind doing for free,thats how much I seem to like it at the moment atleast.
Although I seem to have entered this field in a time when browser incompatibilities are much less of an issue than what the used to be a few years back I don't seem to mind them,the more challenging the more fun it is.
What I am worried about is wasting my time trying to learn something that mind not prove to be worth all the effort I'd put into it.Like this scheme language somebody recommended for example,seems to have quite an history and a cult like following but does not figure in the list of languages most commonly used today.
I'm learning php currently and am planning to do some study in MySQL and databases in general.So the question still remains,what would you recommend I try next.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 11:07

Ignore the SICP/scheme cult guys. Try some RoR

http://developer.apple.com/tools/developonrailsleopard.html

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 11:08

ONE WORD, mod_lisp, THREAD OVER

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 11:17

The "Fails" part of Ruby on Fails is Ruby's Perlish syntax, and the fact any Rails-like framework optimizes some application cases at the expense of unoptimizing anything else. By optimizing, I mean development cost, not execution speed which I care little for (and Ruby is not great at anyways).

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 11:19

>>10
LoL: LoL on Lisp

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 11:42

>>16
Enjoy requiring a dedicated server to serve more than 3 users at the same time.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 12:16

>>20
Enjoy your Forced Parentheses ((((()))))

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 12:20

Use HAppS

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 12:24


((lambda (x) (x x x))
(lambda (x y) (y x y)))

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 16:06

I learned PHP by coding. I coded everything I could and coded a lot.

And now I'm good at it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 16:08

>>24
but now you have two problems.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 17:06

teh suck browser incompatibilities are
Drop IE already faggot. The other browsers actually do it properly

dirty hacks you have to code for fringe cases (people who disable JavaScript
JavaScript may be ubiquitous but it is not mandatory. Unless you're building a web app, design your site to optionally use Javascript. I use w3m for fucks sake.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 17:22

ONE WORD, FLASH

also

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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 17:23

Drop IE already faggot.
I don't use IE, faggot. 90% of the AOL HURR internet does. I have no control over this. This gives me extra work to work around

JavaScript may be ubiquitous but it is not mandatory
Unless you want a website from the 90's. Again it makes extra work to work around.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 17:26

>>28
Unless you want a website from the 90's. Again it makes extra work to work around.

OH WOW...

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 17:39

Wait, what?

What do you actually need JavaScript for anyways?

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 17:56

Unless you want a website from the 90's.
WEB 2.0

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 18:15

>>31
One word, the forced bursting of the bubble, thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 19:06

It's the 90s? Fuck, I forgot to do my taxes!

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 20:43

After all, even /prog/ uses teh ECMAScript to acquire its modern look and feel.
It does degrade nicely though.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 20:56

>>14
Django gives me money.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-02 21:16

>>35
Django gave me aids.

You might want to get checked out.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-03 5:46

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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-03 5:58

>>37
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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-03 8:10

>>37
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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-03 13:12

>>37
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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-03 13:41

>>41
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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-03 13:57

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