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Need Some Motivation to Continue Reading SICP

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 12:40

Greetings fellow pursuers of Satori,
I'm halfway through SICP and did almost all exercises but now that I've reached chapter 4 (interpreters), I just can't be assed to continue.

I didn't have a lot of problems in the previous chapters, in fact, I got through them at a more or less steady pace in 3 months with a break every so often. However, I eventually reached chapter 4 and suddenly BAM, all motivation to continue left me. Now I need days to do just one exercise, if I even continue reading SICP at all (maybe once a month?), and skipping them entirely is more tempting than ever. I can already feel my memory of the book waning. Every time I force myself to read on, I have to reread lots and lots of text which of course only turns me off more. I guess that interpreters and their intricacies don't interest me one bit.

My problem is that I want to finish the book before doing anything else. I feel that there are still useful lessons to be learned, plus chapter 5 seems interesting again. Oh, and I want to finish what I start at least once. The question is: how do I get motivated?

tl;dr: stuck at sicp chapter 4, don't give a shit about interpreters, how to get motivated to finish the book?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 12:47

Had exactly the same problem (I mean exactly, at chapter the fourth). What I did was gave up for like a fortnight. During that time, find some book to read (not too interesting, this might be dangerous; I grabbed Kernighan's book on ``software tools in PASCAL'' (lol)) Then, after the hiatus, I went on with SICP, started by watching the lectures. When I saw The Sussman my will to chase Satori has returned.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 12:49

What might be helpful is the fact that all I knew about PASCAL before reading it was BEGIN and END (not like I know more now anyway.)

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 12:53

If you're bored do something else and stop whining.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 12:55

>>4
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Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 12:56


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Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 13:04


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Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 13:33

>>8
OH SHI-

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 13:45

Alright, this should be a simple solution. Just step back from the assignment and if for any reason there is something you are having trouble on try figuring out why you got it wrong. Just be more attentive of what you are reading and relate the "new" concepts to something you already know. Self teaching can be a difficult task because you have to become the explorer in the infinite cave of knowledge which you must decipher.

Just remember, there is nothing better than you knowing the information. After all, no one has ever complained of knowing too much, except an existentialist (or should I say they know too little).

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 15:18

>>1
Watch the SICP lecture where The Sussman writes a metacircular evaluator on the blackboard.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 15:23

>>8
This is why we have FIOC.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 17:11

Tell me /prog/, does SICP cover lambda?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 17:52

>>13
certainλy

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 18:54

>>14
How do you make that upside-down lambda?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 19:10

Gentlemen, behold... SIDEWAYS LAMBDA

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-17 19:50

⋋abamd

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 0:18

>>16
Looks right side up to me.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 0:32

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Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 0:54

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Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 1:04

>>20
How did you get that upside down λ¿

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 1:07

>>21
¿How did you get that upside down `?'?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 1:15

>>22
How did you get that upside down ``,''?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 1:37

>>23
How did you get that right side up ``,''?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 2:50

>>24
How did you split that ``“'' into two characters?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 4:10

>>25
unzip

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 4:34

>>26
How did you get that upside down ``n'' and ``u''?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 5:23

>>26
how did you get that backwards q?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 6:30

>>28
Like this:
db
qp

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 7:00

d │ b
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q │ p

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 12:25

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 16:09

>>29
>>30
Holy shit! How the fuck did you do all those backward letters?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-18 17:43

>>32
Using rotation-mode.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 14:27

>>2
Lectures?  (Don't worry, I'll google 'em on my own.)

A question though:  Would you recommend reading the relevant sections of the book first OR watching the lecture first?  What did you find most useful.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 14:31

I remember posting >>2.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 14:42

>>34
read it while watching it. duh

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 14:55

Recently, I have been reflecting on sicp and how far too many /prog/riders have actually read it. I propose that we start actively reviewing the lectures, posting our own thoughts, etc in a bid to up readership. I suggest reviewing a new lecture every 3 days or so, who's with me?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 15:01

>>37
s/have/haven't/

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 16:02

>>38

please give me a reference on what these slashes do already.
i confus'd :{

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 16:58

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 18:56

>>40
NYJMUA

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 19:11

>>41
I have probably been trolled but here you go.

That was an easy one, I'm not even >>40

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 20:53

>>40,42
I bet you these two supposed different posters are actually one and the same

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 21:11

>>43
And you are also >>40 and >>42, I suppose?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 21:20

>>44
Not at all. If that's what you believe, then I think you need to reexamine your assumptions.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 21:48

>>40-46

same person

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-09 21:49

>>1-46

Chris, stop talking to yourself again.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 1:32

I had never heard of these lectures before, I'm going to have to give them a look in my spare time.

btw, needs moar seeders!

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 1:51

>>48
You can download all the video lectures here: http://www.archive.org/details/mit_ocw_sicp

moar
*cringe*

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 3:30

>>1
Don't read SICP.

Computer science people only like it because they write over 9000 interpreters in it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 3:35

>>50
I'm interpreter.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 4:18

>>51
That's what she said

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 18:33

>>49
thanks, I had been using the torrents from the book's site, which were taking forever!

SICP had been on my list of things to do/read for a while, and these lectures have just bumped them up to the top.  The first one especially was fantastic!  I had never really thought about alot of the concepts the way Abelson described then.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 19:37

>>53
Yes. Abelson is aweosme as well as THE SUSSMAN. Also am I the only one that noticed Abelson being a bit nervous explaining things during the first lecture?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 19:37

>>54
awesome*

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 19:48

>>54,55
I noticed that too. I imagine it's because of the cameras, since he's done the lecture before that. THE SUSSMAN on the other hand was coolasice.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-10 20:48

>>49
This needs to be digitally restored and remastered.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-11 0:24

>>54
Yeah he definately seems on edge, which endeared him to me any more

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-11 2:46

>>54
Everyone is nervous during their first time.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-11 6:15

>>56
Sussman was literally cooler than the other side of the pillow, as it were.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-11 18:51

I'm going to bump one interesting thread every day, and you're going to like it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-11 18:53

I'm going to sage one bumped thread every day, and you're going to like it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-11 19:14

>>61
I'm going to cause one classic thread to be spoiled every day
Thank you very much, I look forward to it

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-30 19:55

>>63
How did you get that upside down ``I''?

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-30 20:19

>>64
How did you get that rightside up ``o''?

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-30 20:24

>>65
How did you get that leftside ´?

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-20 7:40

>>48
They are all on youtube
youtube[dot]com/user/MIT#grid/user/E18841CABEA24090

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