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Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 22:11

Sup /prog/, I know this is a holy war and all but I've used a LOT of text editors in my time and I'd like to present my piece and get some constructive feedback.  Before I say anything, I need to state my disability.  Because of a birth defect, my right hand is virtually useless on a keyboard except for one finger.  So, around when I began learning to use a computer (age 11, am 22 now), I learned to type using only two fingers.  You know, the really uneducated-looking-way of typing, right?  Well, I'm not bad at it, really (80-120 wpm), but keep that in mind when noting my criticisms of Vi and Emacs.

In order, I learned the following editors:

edit - The original MSDOS editor.  Nothing special, was neat for working with QBASIC back in the day

Notepad - Quick, minimal, but I didn't like the font back on Win95, so I stuck with Wordpad using Courier New 10

Notepad++ - Probably the best minimalist windows editor you can get, aside from just sshing into a linux box to use it's editors.

Pico/Nano - My first linux editors.  While my teacher was spouting the goodness that is Vi, I was doing shit faster than everyone learning the command mode/insert mode differences.  While I no longer use nano, I recognize it as a powerful, fast editor.

Vi - Now, I should've learned this when I first got on linux, but forgive me for being obstinate but a lot of the commands and control mechanisms are gearing towards people who type properly.  I'm starting to speed up a bit when using it, but I'm still not as fast as on nano.

Emacs - Now this is where shit slows down.  How the fuck does anyone get anything done using this thing?  Control-V to go down a page??  Meta???  FUCK THIS SHIT

But seriously, why would anyone prefer Emacs over Vi or Nano?  I can't even use Emacs from a shell, it pulls up a friggin GUI.
 

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 22:43

when you install the non-gui version of emacs it gets better. Its like nano/pico, but with M-x C-x butterfly.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 22:49

>>1
emacs -nw, faggot.

People prefer Emacs because it's not some wimpy little thing or some horrible mess of C code with an ad-hoc scripting language. It has everything built in, and it's all done with Lisp code.

Anyway, if you're using a text editor in an X terminal you're an idiot. Enjoy your KEYPRESS KEYPRESS KEYPRESS.

P.S. You may be interested to know that there is a key called PAGE DOWN that you can use to go down a page.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 23:44

P.S. You may be interested to know that there is a key called Ctrl-Alt-Meta-Right Alt-Function-PAGE DOWN C Alt-Esc-Ctrl-Sysrq-Keypad Plus-X Ctrl-F that you can use to go down a page.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 23:51

>>3
good point, i use gnome-terminal.  xterm sucks shit

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 23:53

>>5
Did I say xterm?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-06 23:56

>>5
If you're using any terminal-based editor when you're running X, you're a retard.

NO EXCEPTIONS

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 0:40

P.S. You may be interested to know there is a key called M-Butterfly that you can use to alter the universe.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 1:04

>>3
Enjoy your HANDTOMOUSE.CLICK.CLICK.CLICK.HANDTOKEYBOARD HANDTOMOUSE.CLICK.CLICK.CLICK.HANDTOKEYBOARD HANDTOMOUSE.CLICK.CLICK.CLICK.HANDTOKEYBOARD HANDTOMOUSE.CLICK.CLICK.CLICK.HANDTOKEYBOARD

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 1:10

>>9
Lrn2mouse.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 3:31

>>7
Why? A mouse really isn't necessary.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 5:44

>>1
Try Editpad Pro, it's much better than all you've described

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 5:56

As >>3 already pointed out, Vi/Emacs are geared more towards heavy editing (hence regex search/replace, delete a range of lines, insert shit here, etc.) than the other editors you mentioned (which are more for just entering text and basic delete/insert/search/replace).

80-120wpm on two fingers is awesome.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 6:11

OP cannot use Emacs.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-07 7:04

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!!
ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

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