Sup /prog/
To be quite frank, I have to learn Java. I need a good IDE, and do not want to use NetBeans or Eclipse. What are my options?
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:10
notepad
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:13
I said IDE
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:16
JUST USE ECLIPSE YOU IDIOT
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:16
Well firstly, why don't you want to use NetBeans or Eclipse?
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:37
They seem very sluggish to me, I just can't get the right feeling with it. My normal IDE (Visual Studio 6.0) just feels so right, it's a shining example of a lightweight, powerful IDE. I'm currently using NetBeans and it just seems really sluggish, I can't get used to it you know? I've also had a terrible past with Eclipse.
>>7
OP here. Currently trying out JCreator and so far I'm loving it (pun not intended.) My only complaint is that it doesn't have any form of popup intellisense/auto-completion, which is pretty much vital for beginner java programmers. Other then that, this IDE is comparable to the almighty VS.
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:54
Also, call me ignorant, but it seems to me as if there's no way to debug in JCreator? Hmm. . .
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Anonymous2008-01-15 4:57
>>8
wtf? CEO of Xinox Software is
Wendel D. de Witte
Email: wendeldw@jcreator.com
you made the whole thing up
Of course, if you don't want to use NetBeans/Eclipse you should use IntelliJ Idea
Or emacs, you can always use emacs
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Anonymous2008-01-15 5:05
Dr Scheme with ProfessorJ!
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Anonymous2008-01-15 5:08
>>17
Why would anyone in their right mind want to use emacs?
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Anonymous2008-01-15 5:11
>>17
Yeah, some guy posted IntelliJIdea (catchy name) to be honest I'm really loving JCreator Pro at the moment, I'll take a look at it later. I also lol'd at the Emacs comment. My goal is to learn Java in the least amount of time possible, and not to play DDR on my keyboard :P
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Anonymous2008-01-15 10:34
Hey, I know quite a few people that program Java in Emacs. (At least) one of them even has auto-completion and such. It's the legacy
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Anonymous2008-01-15 10:36
>>21 Hey, I know quite a few people that program Java in Emacs. (At least) one of them even has auto-completion and such. It's the legacy
It's the legacy
You are so grand.
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Anonymous2008-01-15 10:43
>>19
Why would anyone in their right mind want to use anything else?
Eclipse does a fuckload of work for you, so who cares if it's marginally slower? It's not like you have to wait for it to do anything at the speed that coders work at. Plus, automatic background compilation beats the shit out of having to wait for it every time you make a change.
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Anonymous2008-01-16 13:48
I was forced to use JCreator in school when I started programming Java. The software is a piece of shit.
When I had my first internship I was told to use Eclipse since it's mostly the "standard", so I took a while to look through all of the tools and what it could do and it's just SO much better. I have no idea what you're talking about with "sluggishness", I never had any problem with compilation and launching programs that made any real difference, ever. And it does so many more things and does them so much better, there's not a whole lot of reason to use anything else (maybe NetBeans, but I never really liked it).
Seriously, troll harder fag.
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Anonymous2008-01-16 15:19
>>33
Someone who prefers a software you don't use? MUST BE A TROLL.
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Anonymous2008-01-16 16:59
>>33
Is it normal for eclipse to thrash the CPU even when it's not doing anything, and to use increasing amounts of memory when idling?