Maybe about a year, i'm not great but with the help of books and the internet i've found very little i can't do.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 16:18
When I was a beginner I read SAMS Teach Yourself C++ in 24 Hours. Although you can't really learn it in 24 hours it took me a few weeks to get a grasp on C++.
If you mean syntax then it took me just over a day or so (never used a {} language before). I reckon most people on [spoiler]/prog/[/spoiler] could pick up the syntax of a new language in a few hours.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 17:04
Nobody has ever finished learning C++
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Anonymous2008-01-06 17:11
I never did. I puke blood every time I get to the IO, which is my body's way of telling me to stop before I read about C++ templates, at which point I'd have to claw my eyes out before the infection spread.
The people who complain about C++ are usually the ones too stupid to understand it. Fact: as much as you wish it weren't so, toy language faggots, everyone uses C/C++ and Java. No exceptions. Advocates of SICP and Scheme/CL are typically college undergrads who have never taken part in the creation of a system, from gestation to deployment. Enjoy your unemployment.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 17:31
WTF is sepples? I always see it tossed around. Is it C++?
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Anonymous2008-01-06 17:34
>>14 The people who complain about Scheme/CL are usually the ones too stupid to understand it. Fact: as much as you wish it weren't so, toy language faggots, everyone uses Scheme and Common Lisp(``LISP being the most powerful and cleanest of languages, that's the language that the GNU project always prefers.'' -RMS). No exceptions. Advocates of Sepples and Java are typically college undergrads who have never taken part in the creation of a system, from gestation to deployment. Enjoy your unemployment.
It's funny how it fits perfectly.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 17:39
>>15
``Sepples'' is the more awesome name for C++.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 17:40
The people who complain about C++ are usually the ones too stupid to understand it.
I lold massively
>>16
Except for the fact that Scheme and CL ARE toy languages, so when you use the phrase toy language again it looks silly.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 20:58
>>23
Nobody is saying sepples is hard. However, compared to Scheme/CL, it is. Let's it put it this way, Scheme and CL are relatively easy languages compared to Seppels
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Anonymous2008-01-06 21:41
Learn both Scheme/CL and C++ then you won't have to bitch and complain anymore about anything.
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Anonymous2008-01-06 22:23
>>16 It's funny how it fits perfectly.
Yeah, except that in the real world, everything is done with Sepples and nothing with LISP. Enjoy your unemployment.
>>11
Of course, someone like you who is quick to pass judgement and has never actually looked into the standard I/O cannot be expected to understand it's subtle beauty. The standard I/O hierarchy (ios_base <- basic_ios <- basic_istream/ostream <- basic_iostream) is a very nice example of inheritence modelling, and the extensibility C++ provides (ie. being able to specify how I/O operates on user-defined types at the class level, providing custom i/o manipulators, etc)
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You're right, Java seems to be gaining popularity today, it's quite depressing :<
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Anonymous2008-01-07 2:54
>>30 The standard I/O hierarchy is a very nice example of inheritence modelling
And a very terrible example of API modeling.
Java seems to be gaining popularity today
Better Java than Sepples. Give the retards a language that's a little harder to misuse, that's what I say.
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Anonymous2008-01-07 4:41
>>31 And a very terrible example of API modeling.
Have you seen the way Java's I/O libraries are structured?
>>30 You're right, Java seems to be gaining popularity today, it's quite depressing :<
Java has had popularity for years. It's now the most used language, ahead of COBOL (I'm serious--second most used language) and Perl.
Languages that are gaining popularity are Ruby and Haskell. I'd say Python is already there.