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JAVA is the BEST language

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 15:19

Some reasons why JAVA rules and your language sucks.

   1. Beauty. No legacy underscores. Nuf sed.
   2. Java has long, clear, unabbreviated names.
   3. With Java, IDEs come standard so that you don't have to type those long names. Phew!
   4. Sooo many vendors support Java, except Microsoft. Microsoft supports IronPython, which doesn't help my pro Java arguments, so ssh ssh.
   5. Java runs Python and many other languages including Java! Ok, it's not fair comparing a VM to a language, but i couldn't resist.
   6. Java has a well funded community, whereas Pythonistas have to be naturally enthusiastic.
   7. Java is strongly typed, so we don't have to write unit tests, and can rely on blind luck more.
   8. It takes longer in Java, which helps a lot when you're getting paid by the hour. "Wa wa we waa!"
   9. Java rules the Enterprise, if you exclude that SAP thingy.
  10. Java rules the Web, if you exclude those ASP and LAMP thingies - and Python is only one of three P's in LAMP, so...
  11. Java rules the Desktop, if you exclude C/C++, Objective-C, and all the stuff from the desktop monopoly.
  12. Java rules the Mobile, period... for now.
  13. Java is no good at system tasks, so it gives us a good cop-out for avoiding those.
  14. Java never gets compared to, or confused with, Perl.
  15. Java has an enterprise version. Quite a few actually.
  16. Java has more opensource projects, more toolkits, more IDEs, more jobs, more verbosity, more everything!

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 15:23

2GET

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 15:46

Nice troll.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 15:52

>>3
that's not a troll, dude.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 17:36

I'M THE SUSSMAN
SON OF A BITCH ABELSON
ABELSON IS PIG
DO YOU WANT PYTHON?
DO YOU WANT FORCED INDENTATION OF THE CODE?
ABELSON IS PIG DISGUSTING
GUIDO VAN ROSSUM IS A MURDERER
FUCKING ABELSON

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 18:58

Some reasons why COMMON LISP rules and your language sucks.

1. Beaty. No legacy underscores. Nuf sed.
2. CL has long, clear, unabbreviated names.
3. With CL, IDEs come standard so that you don't have to type those long names. Phew!
4. Sooo many vendors support CL, except Microsoft. Microsoft supports IronPython, which doesn't help my pro CL arguments, so ssh ssh.
&c.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-10 20:49

Beaty

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-11 14:36

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Name: Anonymous 2007-11-12 5:21

I thought this thread would become epic, that's why I hurried to 2GET.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-12 10:36

Some reasons why ASSEMBLY rules and your language sucks:

1. Beauty.
2. Simplicity.
3. Robustness.
4. Fastness.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-12 11:16

Some reasons why Tcl rules and your language sucks:

1. Beauty due to homoiconicity.
2. Simplicity due to having only one operation and an expr language.
3. Robustness due to being easily sandboxed from Tcl itself or C.
4. Fastness due to finishing your work sooner than you would if you were writing C or assembly.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-12 23:19

>>10
Assembly is not beautiful.  Look at any decent-sized listing of assembly code.  No beauty.  It's like looking at a cervix from the inside.

Assembly is not simple.

Assembly is not robust.  In C you can shoot yourself in the foot.  In assembly you have to invent your own gun and foot, and bullets, and notions of velocity, and will probably shoot them clear off and everything else around you a million times before you get it right.  Anything that supports self-modifying code is inherently non-robust.

Assembly is fast.  I'll give you that.

But the above reasons is exactly why I like assembly.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-12 23:50

>>12
k.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-12 23:52

>>11


I don't believe you. More proofs?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 0:06

>>12 Anything that supports self-modifying code is inherently non-robust.

Lol wut? Me and my space toad disagree.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 0:54

>>10
you only like assembly because it give you skills (fuck off C fags) capable of breaking/hacking/exploiting every software in existance, admit it, l33th@x0r

>>15
shuddap assembly with brackets

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 0:55

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 4:49

>>12
It's like looking at a cervix from the inside.
*fap fap fap*

Anything that supports self-modifying code is inherently non-robust.
You are not suave.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 23:08


;=========================================
; Basic program to change graphics modes
;=========================================
mov ah,00            ;subfunction 0
mov al,18            ;select mode 18 (or 12h if prefer)
int 10h                ;call graphics interrupt
;==== Graphics code here ====
mov ah,00            ;again subfunc 0
mov al,03            ;text mode 3
int 10h                ;call int
mov ah,04ch
mov al,00            ;end program normally
int 21h

NO BEAUTY
VERY CERVICAL
NOT ROBUST
BUT FAST

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 23:28

>>19
You're only saying that because YOU CANT HANDLE THE CODE.

Assembly is like drugs, by itself it looks like patches or plants, nothing special. Once you use it, you feel like a EXPERT HACKER, and then end up shit once the effects gone and you discovered you forgot a dword_ptr.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-13 23:49

>>17
404

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-14 2:33

>>19
oh hi, i optimized ur code.
mov ax 18 | int h10
; ==== Graphics code here ===
mov ax 3 | int h10 | mov ax h4c00 | int h21

p.s. toilet-paper code went out of style years ago in the elite Asm communities.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-14 4:01

mov ax, 18
int 0x10
;shit here
mov ax, 3
int 0x10
ret

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-14 4:03

btw if that code is at the beginning of your program you can use "mov al, 18" since ax is zero at the start of DOS programs.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-15 11:40

hey java where's your unsigned types?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-15 15:08

>>25
sign bit considered harmful

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-15 20:57

>>26
I don't believe you. More proofs?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-15 22:49

>>25
Well there's byte. And, and... oh.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 2:12

>>28
byte is unsigned? no i remember byte is 16 bit signed

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkk

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 2:59

>>29
A byte is 8 bits. Try to keep up.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 3:19

Nowadays these newfangled Java machines are so horizontally scalable, they had to upgrade bytes to 16 bits. Boy, now that's Agile.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 3:42

>>31
Then what do you call 8 bits?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 3:45

>>32
octet you faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 4:05

>>24
OMG OPTIMIZED

>>25
hey >>25 why do you care?

>>29
Byte is generally understood as 8 bits, though I recommend avoiding it formally and using "octet" instead.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 5:10

There used to be popular machines back in the 60s that had bytes of other widths. But on all modern computers, a byte is 8 bits.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 6:46

C#/.Net. Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 9:13

My other byte is 12 bits.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 9:21

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens
and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS!!!!
ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 9:43

Java sucks.

Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 15:12

>>30
shit forgot, fucking Java, havent touched that shit since 1.1 release

char is apparantly 16 bit signed

byte is signed still, no?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 15:39

>>1
7. Java is strongly typed
Fuck yeah. I remember working on this huge Java project with a bunch of incompetent enterprise monkeys. Their Java code still sucked major ass, but at least they were forced to implement the right interfaces.

To imagine, these people writing Python or Perl code... shudder.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-16 18:10

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