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Hard Java!

Name: Noob 2007-11-02 6:03

HELP! MY TEACHER IS TEACHING ME JAVA AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING!

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 14:26

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Java abstracts away too many key concepts in programming.
It doesn't. The problem with using Java as a teaching language is that it forces beginning programmers to focus on totally irrelevant bullshit (public class Foo { public static void main() { } } just to get a fucking executable program, a medieval type system that serves no purpose other than getting in the way, ``In Java everything is an object... Well, except built-in types.'', forced object-orientation of code (a great way to limit students' problem solving skills to ENTERPRISE-grade solutions), and many other reasons).

The ideal first teaching language should have minimal, clear syntax, be abstract enough not to bog students down with low-level implementation details (it's necessary to learn about them eventually, but a beginning programming course is not the right place) and place no arbitrary dumbfuckerious limits on what kind of programmatic constructs you can create with it.

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