/prog/ - x86 Assembler

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 9:12 ID:5NEYUrXL

What do you guys thing of assembler? I recently started learning it and allready built myself a opengl basecode for developing 4k/64k intros

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 9:22 ID:JESi0QVC

It's probably a good idea to learn it, but using it for 64k intros is really fucking stupid and a total waste of time.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 9:24 ID:QMPVJ4tA

QBasic is better.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 9:29 ID:bBuYUiVo

Depends on what you do, for me is useless..

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 9:52 ID:nQLGDMhY

>>1
Configure your C/C++ compiler correctly, and you to can produce lean and mean binaries.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 9:53 ID:GjzJCZnQ

>>5
CFLAGS just kicked in yo!

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 15:34 ID:fLya5it5

>>5
Can you get a C program to compile down to >= 4 kb?

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 15:36 ID:fWQb7nRm

>>7 Actually yes, >=4 kb is incredibly easy!

If you actually meant <=4 kb, yes that's possible too.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 15:39 ID:Heaven

>>7
Most C programs are >= 4 kb. If you happen to be a fucking moron an actually meant <= 4 kb, yes, it is very possible, although it depends quite a bit on your OS. When I was still using Windows, I remember getting the base code for an intro to a bit under 1k. It was a bit trickier on Linux and I've never even tried it on OS X (which I've been primarily using for four years now).

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 16:39 ID:7dKOhfMa

>>7
Assuming you mean the ``Less-Then-Or-Equal'' operator, then yes. If you use the Visual Studio, simply omit stack frame creation, turn on ``global optimizations'' and ''favour small code'' (-Og -Os -Oy), change the entry point of you binary to not use the default one from the CRT, and also disable static linking of the c-stdlib, and you can get a base executable to less then 1KiB

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 16:40 ID:Heaven

>>10
After that, feel free to abuse the inline assembler as much as you want ;)

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 17:00 ID:Heaven

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Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 17:02 ID:1986nuRv

Which x86 assembler you retarded fuck, theres a few out there. Talk about not knowing what comes out of your internets.

Shit thing about asm is, the processor's assembly specs are widely avaliable, but graphic card asm isn't. Took too long to even find one piece of Nvidia asm, but I do have one piece.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-10 18:43 ID:Heaven

>>9
Sort of offtopic, but do you happen to have any good resources on intro and demo development? I've recently gotten interested in that stuff, but I've never really done any graphics programming before so I don't know what I should start learning first.