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php frameworks

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-09 12:45 ID:VYhCiAc/

what do you guys think about php frameworks?  is the mvc architecture a lost cause for this language?

i'm not impressed with cakephp and symfony, but code igniter looks like something i can actually use. 

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-09 13:12 ID:+sZ/9J6i

WHY THE HOLY FUCK ARE YOU USING PHP?
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