BATTLE OF THE LANGUAGES

1)State your fav. programming language
2)Fight over witch is better
3)FUN!

and... GO!

Yeah, PHP is fine if you know how to program it well

Unfortunately our industry is full of incompetents who mess it up for everyone

web 2.0 if for faggots

I program in Delphi.
Works fine enough and is intuitive and simple enough to get good grasp of it without having to learn things like overloading functions and procedures.
Nice and clean is the way to go for me.
I'll let programming elitists fight over what they think is the best programming language while i just program.

I'm quite looking forward to C2009. In fact I'm holding back on a large operating systems project for a couple of years just so I can use it.

>>43
That sounds like the Delphi troll thread I posted here some months ago.

Yeah, PHP is fine if you know how to program it well
This indicates it's a poorly designed language, at least security-wise.

One of the first principles in security is KISS. It doesn't matter how good you are, you will fuck up.  Easy means you'll fuck up less often.

>>40
lol hay wut site was this?

Programming shouldn't require anything like as much language-specific knowledge as PHP takes. Knowing which standard library functions to avoid because they have security holes or performance issues is something you just shouldn't go through.

Take a look at ruby on rails sometime if you're getting sick of PHP having stupid holes in it. Yes, it is slow, but so was java in the early days - they're working on the speed factor.

>>46
Lets all go to VB because it's more idiot proof than C, as we all know VB is a superior language.  Copying strings is safe!

>>48
Ruby doesn't require language-specific knowledge?  Laff.  PHP6 is removing a lot if not all of those "security holes" anyway.

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Lets all face it, there's no perfect language.  What we have to do make do with what we have.  If you're too inept to even think how your app can be attacked, you better expect problems.

Honestly, the main problem with PHP is the low barrier of entry.  Have enough stupid people making scripts, combine that with other stupid people using said scripts, suddenly the language is attacked for not being secure, slow, horrible to maintain, what-have-you.

All languages suck.

- Python sucks because it has statements, variable definition hinders closures and it lacks proper tail recursion.
- Lisp sucks because it carries a huge legacy (hello "contents of address register"!), it lacks syntax for comfortable array and dictionary use, and it requires certain fetaures of an editor unless you want to go insane.
- Lua sucks because of its weak typing, statements, and more stuff I don't know Lua enough to tell.
- Ruby sucks because of its god awful syntax, and more stuff I don't know Ruby enough to tell.
- Perl sucks bec/("#$&)=/)("#/"?#%(2789Q#%, stupid subs, stupid references, stupid Hungarian notation, etc.
- JavaScript sucks because of its weak typing, fucked up array, half fucked up objects and fucked up for with arrays
- PHP sucks because of its lack of nested scopes, true first-class functions, weak typing and low-quality standard library
- Java sucks because... well, let's leave it at that.

There is one truly great language. And that is Squirrel
http://squirrel-lang.org

>>50
- Python sucks because it has FORCED INDENTATION OF CODE THREAD OVER.
fixed