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Java is NOT a high level language

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-08 23:39 ID:vdJ0koY+

TRU.DAT

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-08 23:47 ID:yC5tKfqJ

define "high level language"

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-08 23:51 ID:Heaven

java IS a high level language

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 0:15 ID:BnCnFeYn

>>3
TROLL

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 0:19 ID:8oNhVQwv

>>4
It is a well known fact that every thread on /prog/ is started by a troll,  THEREFORE I CAN CONCLUDE THAT YOU ARE TROLLING

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 0:36 ID:tWGu2GfO

It is a high level language. Its just most people dont like it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 5:22 ID:rv1XMTRK

let's settle on common ground. It is partially high-level maybe?

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 6:01 ID:unW3NAE7

Hi, I am Dr. Anonymous.

Java is a low-level language. Mid-level at best.

A high-level language is loosely defined as something that allows you to work with a higher degree of abstraction over the machine and structure underneath it, and to provide built-in useful abstract types with native syntax for immediates.

Java, being a static typed language without type inference, and providing no lists or dictionaries, is NOT a high-level language.

It's not Lupus, either.

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 10:31 ID:Heaven

low-level == close to hardware
java is extremely high level

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-09 12:59 ID:1sgnMauR

>>9
JVM

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 1:01 ID:Xgd+FOVi

>>9
there's a HUGE difference between a low-level language and a low-level application.
a low-level language is a language that it's not readable by a human. example given, brainfuck.
a low-level application is an app that accesses the hardware etc.

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 1:31 ID:xYbkt3KM

>>10
bytecode is not low-level

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 1:32 ID:xYbkt3KM

(unless we're talking cpu opcodes)

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 1:51 ID:iUCd82/G

Java is high-level

one word: the forced object-orientation of code

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 2:58 ID:wvPVOso+

>>a low-level application is an app that accesses the hardware etc.

And high-level languages eschew hardware, talking to God alone?

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 3:27 ID:mibaPmH5

>>14
>one word: the forced object-orientation of code
Win

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 3:32 ID:toCnbRSY

Java is high level. It's not the highest level programming language that exists, but it is certainly not low level.

It's my view that every programmer should be required to program in assembly language at least once. This way they will understand the pain that is really low level programming and thank whatever they worship that higher level languages exist. If, after that experience, someone still wants to claim that Java is low level they should find themselves an insane asylum.

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 5:52 ID:t9BDenzO

>>17
Java is not higher-level than QBasic. Both are mid-level at best, lacking key features such as built-in lists with native syntax, proper typing (dynamic or static inferred), etc. It's also close to its hardware, as close as C++ is.

Assembly and its portable version, C, as well as the popular "Touring-complete extension" C++, are low-level languages.

For a high-level language, think Lisp, Python, Perl, Ruby, Lua, JavaScript, Haskell...

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 11:37 ID:yKb22/VK

>>18
C is NOT Touring-complete?

BLASPHEMY!!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 17:51 ID:lkVtKdNP

>>19
Of course not. It is Turing-complete, but it's not Touring-complete. As an Anonymous from this board pointed out, C++ was created to be a Touring-complete extension to C.

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 18:15 ID:sWRFtkWY

But all this stuff is obsolete today because BBCode IS the Touring-complete Reference Language

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 18:41 ID:rajBdM6d

>>18
Did somebody just say `Lisp'?

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             o        //LISP   `.,
       ,....OOo.   .c;.',,,.'``.,,.`
    .'      ____.,'.//
   / _____  \___/.'
  | / ||  \\---\|
  ||  ||   \\  ||
  co  co    co co

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-10 19:01 ID:Heaven

lisp sux get over it

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-14 14:26

Worse then Perl

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-25 7:15


The point of x   is an instance   of the Ord.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 23:08

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 2:51

Don't change these.
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