Programming is a way to make programs

Nothing more.

Satori, if it's even real, is just an affliction that make you unable to care about coding because you've distanced yourself from the real world so much.


Stop making threads about metaphysical nonsense.

>>40
Now that's just embarrassing.

>>40
So I wrote a program and got it working after only four compile/runs?
No, you didn't even write it, you just wanted to prove how simple an algorithm that was and failed for three times.

we're just assuming that your guru simply teleported himself out with SATORI MAGIC.
Actually, it's not that the guru teleported himself. It's simply that he exists everywhere at the same time, because he has achieved Satori.

So you're useless, is what you're saying. You can't write code because you can't be assed.
Lol.

The exact same thing you do, I just don't act like an arrogant dick about it and claim everyone who knows how to use optimized C with inline assembly is a moron. I'm not a fan of Scheme but I do use abstraction in other languages.
I'll ask again: What do you use when you don't "need that extra little boost" nobody needs?

I'm starting to think you still use C.

NO REASON TO WORRY ABOUT BIG OH EXCECUTION TIME IN MY BRAIN LOL!
My brain runs any algorithm in O(1) time and space, because I don't run it, I meta-run it. But when I *need* to implement it, I implement the most efficient one, with the most favourable O() time and space.

So you're hired to write a scientific calculator app, and you just tell your boss "LOL NO NEED TO DO THAT, I CAN JUST DO IT IN MY HEAD LOL!"
I don't get paid to write trivial things, but if I'm paid to I'll write anything. Heh, a couple of weeks ago I had a bit of spare time at work and I just went and implemented yet another Lisp dialect, in Python, with lexical scoping (not using the language's own) and tail call optimization. How's that for a scientific calculator?

>>40
To quote, prefix any line with GREATER-THAN SIGN and SPACE.

>>43
To quote, prefix any line with GREATER-THAN SIGN and SPACE.

How else will we identify that noob?

I've written an program to calculate the optical properties of solar cells by combining a coherent and and incoherent approach.
Now to calculate the absorption in the active layer as a function of active layer thickness and by forehand i knew that it is best done by summing over wavelength and then over distance from one boundary of the active layer.
This is theoretically the best and fastest solution, so i implemented it.
The other way around would have been considerably slower.
So i either achieved satori without knowing or this whole satori business is a load of crock and i'm better off visiting Japan next month and enjoy the meganekko there.

No, you didn't even write it, you just wanted to prove how simple an algorithm that was and failed for three times.

The first one would have worked for most maze generation algorithms. The second and third were me having the right idea but not explaining it well enough.

Actually, it's not that the guru teleported himself. It's simply that he exists everywhere at the same time, because he has achieved Satori.

"Satori" is just Japanese for "mastery". How does mastery over programming help him transcend reality? I call bullshit. You're cheating, really; this "game" of yours proves nothing.

Lol.

I see your point.

>I'll ask again: What do you use when you don't "need that extra little boost" nobody needs? I'm starting to think you still use C.

Actually, I very rarely have to write in C. Most of the time I use either Java, or C++/C#. It's just what's required for most projects, so I go with it. I know, someone who's all LOL C INLINE ASSEMBLY would use a language like Java? Unthinkable.

... [omitted] ... How's that for a scientific calculator?

That's pretty cool, to be honest... but I thought you didn't "need" to program anything outside of work for food so you can meditate?


I know what you're thinking. "LOL HE DOESN'T USE JAVA, THAT'S TO SLOW FOR HIM" and "THERE'S NO WAY HE HAD REALLY FIGURED OUT THE MAZE THING ON THE SECOND GO." Well, here, look at this thing I made a couple years back that I managed to dig up on my hard drive:

http://zenixstudios.com/f.php?f=jorbzjqus

A maze generator and solver in Java. And I didn't even use the wall technique for solving it. Back then I hated making GUI's so when the frame appears just click it to generate the maze, then click it again to solve it. I am NOT a moron (even if I don't know BBCode)

Just FYI, a Satori Programmer would not even require to write code most of the time, because he would be an Virtuoso programmer. A true expert, usually hired as consultants by businesses. His job?

Instruct and plan software design and implementation details, leave the coding to the lowly paid script monkeys and occasionally write a few routines if the result is not satisfactory.

Yes, these guys are highly paid.

I am a C programmer, albeit I'm currently trying to learn Java, not the language itself mind you but the XBOX HUEG library. Java's libraries were meant to simplify programming, now I'm going around hunting down various Objects and their methods just like programming in raw Win32.

I hate forced OOP, then again I'm only an amature programmer, maybe one day I'll see that Java is worth the time. A friend of mind recently completed a project for a company in Java, so that may be the future.

SCALABLE ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS, his file tree was massive.

>>46
hi, i'm not the guy you were discussing with.
a few words of advice:
* stop trying to defend your intelligence, it makes you look like a moron. If you really think you're smart, there is no need for you to defend it. If you need to prove your smartness to /prog/, you've already failed, because:
* java sucks. Pick up a better language. It's a language aimed at the average programmer, not to the good one. The Java designers (like, say, GS jr.) probably write their little programs in their other, better, languages, which assume their programmers are pretty good. Like say, Common Lisp.

>>46
"Satori" is just Japanese for "mastery". How does mastery over programming help him transcend reality? I call bullshit. You're cheating, really; this "game" of yours proves nothing.
You are a great source for copypasta.

Actually, I very rarely have to write in C. Most of the time I use either Java, or C++/C#. It's just what's required for most projects, so I go with it. I know, someone who's all LOL C INLINE ASSEMBLY would use a language like Java? Unthinkable.
Lol Java

That's pretty cool, to be honest... but I thought you didn't "need" to program anything outside of work for food so you can meditate?
It was an exercise in meditation as well, just I was bored and needed to do something, so I was planning on creating an infinite loop of Python hosting Lisp hosting Python hosting Lisp... I wrote the first Lisp, then my time ran out and I imagined the rest.


>>47
Java's libraries were meant to simplify programming
Only they managed to overcomplicate it by being bloated, overengineered and overstructured, and make you hate this business. They are the worst big libraries I know.

maybe one day I'll see that Java is worth the time
It's not, read SICP and learn Lisp. If you find Lisp less practical, after you've read SICP, learn Python, Ruby, Lua, or similars.

It's not, read SICP and learn Lisp. If you find Lisp less practical, after you've read SICP, learn Python, Ruby, Lua, or similars.
Then again it's easy to get a job with Java, like it or not. Elsewhere I agree.

Satori-level joke: My other car is a cdr. HURR HURR DRRRRRRRRRRR~

>>50
It's also easy to get a job as janitor, that doesn't mean you should do it.

People die when they are killed.

>>52
yeah, but java jobs pay better than janitor jobs.

>>54
Yeah, but as a janitor, at least you can help people. As a Java programmer, you are only making the world a more ENTERPRISE to be.

Java

Is

Evil

I agree with >>55.

The janitor analogy was a poor choice on my side, because what janitors do is the inverse of what Java DEVELOPERS do.

Hey, you know, you work in whatever language you need to. I wrote that maze program mostly to help refresh the Java I learned in college for a Java project I had to do. I offered no opinions on Java; I simply used it because I thought it was LOL HIGH-LEVEL ABSTRACT enough for you.

>>55
>>59
are you kidding me? I HATE janitors, they are the worst people ever. Most of them like to fancy themselves as big, important people, but they're a bunch of retards with no power over anything in their fucking lives. They just like to pretend.

It was a great analogy!

>>61
This man is a real Java programmer

>>62
I don't program in java, but if I had to program it for a living, I would.
In my job I'm now programming in PL/SQL, which may be worse if you think it for a second.

>>61 has never met a janitor and is basing his 'experience' on the Janitor from Scrubs.

Janitor from Scrubs.
who?

>>60
I offered no opinions on Java; I simply used it because I thought it was LOL HIGH-LEVEL ABSTRACT enough for you.
Java is a low-level language. Mid-level at best, if we count its obnoxious library.

>>66
java is high level idiot

>>67
JVM assembly is higher level than java.

>>66
Java is high-level. Shut the fuck up.

>>66
Java is high-level you stupid fucktard

Java is enterprise-level

"High level" is a rather ill-defined term, but Java ain't it. I agree with >>66: it's mid-level at best.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is... uh... clueless. Sorry. :(

>>72
java is high level, lol
stop this stupid troll.

>>74
Learn what "high-level" is. Java isn't. Mid-level, maybe.

>>40
fails at bbcode

>>74
java is a high level langauge lol

LISP

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Drawing is way to make porn

Nothing more.

I've just read through the thread from start to last.  I don't even remember what it was about off the top of my head anymore.