macros, metaprogramming,etc

hi!
I'm a smug lisp weenie. One of the things I like the most of lisp is macros, because it's a huge, important abstraction. With macros the lack of syntax stops being a burden and starts being an advantage.
Still, lisp is not the only language with macros. I've seen languages like Haskell, OCaml, Nemerle, TCL, and maybe Joy (to tell you the truth I can barely read Joy code).
Do you have any experiences in this stuff? is it as powerful and easy to use as in lisp?

Lisp macros are basically just lazily evaluated functions. Presumably Haskell should be able to do the same stuff.

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C++ has macro support

>>4
In addition, C++ templates are Touring complete

Lisp and haskell aren't touring complete to my knowledge

>>3
shutup suave space toad lisp

>>4 I'm suprised if Lisp isn't turing complete.

>>5
Is that relevent to the topic or is it just your way of saying "i havent read sicp"

>>2
go read "template metaprogramming in haskell" and come back after you finish.

>>7
Touring not Turing.

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