Are there any real computer scientists left? People who are actually interested in the science of computing, and not just looking for letters on a piece of paper that will get them into the game development industry?
I swear, computing is doomed. All we have left in our CS programs are little faggots who "WAN TO MAEK GAEM JUS LIEK BUNGIE DID L0Lz0Rzzz!!!@~!@~!!@~~!@"
Is the whole industry like this, or is it just my school? Will these faggots ever go away?
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Anonymous2007-02-20 2:49
If you take the right classes, you won't find these faggots. They avoid theory classes like the plauge.
I'm interested in games, but would never work in the field. Because they know people want to work in the field, companies like EA treat game devs like shit. Better to work in telecomms or something nobody in their right mind would do as a hobby, you'll get a better paycheque.
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Anonymous2007-02-20 12:57
I'm interested in that, but how to find a job doing that?
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Tom2007-02-20 20:13 ID:0TqQM0l3
I am a computer engineering student and I do alot of software engineering. If I did get a job in game development, I would be working to find the best code to run on the particular hardware the game is being made on, I assume.
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EA is shit, I would probably not work in the field very long if EA was employing me. Game companies like Insomniac and Naughty Dog are the good ones. Square Enix, etc.
Because I believe I feel the same way you do, and am surrounded by children. Message back with your schools name... perhaps we go to the same school...
I am likewise interested. At my university, the bulk of the students were simply lacking _any_ clue about what to do with the skills they were supposedly acquring. I swear, we had people in the degree program who didn't even like computers. I ask you people, how can you try to acquire a degree in Computer Science with a maligned view of the subject of said science?
I started in 2000, right when everyone knew there wasn't any money in it ... or at least I thought everyone knew it.
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Anonymous2007-02-23 3:37 ID:D+67vYNi
i'm going to university of illinois at urbana-champaign next year to study cs... i really hope all the students there aren't of the same 'lol lets make an mmorpg in bsaic guyz~!' type that have been described in this thread...
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Anonymous2007-02-23 7:48 ID:MaSimMq+
Yes I'm in a software engineering major and intend to get a job programming, either web programming (my forte) or otherwise. I have no intention to ever so much as learn to write games, or deal with graphics.
I am already good at backend web development, and every day I'm improving my skills with practice. I'm going to let college teach me to understand C/C++ and Java some more, but I'll probably do most of the learning in those myself.
Depends, really. If you find the good professors, you can learn a lot. Most choose not to, of course, since they are actually difficult courses. John Boyland at UW Milwaukee, for instance, is an amazingly intelligent individual and I have taken every class he has offered. I dare say I got a pretty good education out of it as well, as was employed full time by a hedge fund as a Sophomore.
So, two people stated that their university offers C/C++ and that refutes me? When most of /prog/ comes into this thread and tells me that their university offers C/C++, I'll say I'm wrong. Until then, I stand on what I said earlier: most colleges and universities only offer Java. C/C++ is rare.
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Extremely shitty universities may offer only Java, but it is impossible for any decent university to not use a lower-level language like C. Lots of 300 and 400 level courses need it, such as operating systems, parallel computing, or graphics. They all require the speed of C and things like direct access to memory, system calls, etc.
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Anonymous2007-02-25 1:40 ID:JkPDMS/N
>>34
How rare is it? I just finished a semester of C at my uni, and C++ isn't more than 6 months away.
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Anonymous2007-02-25 2:24 ID:ZHAcVqiZ
actually i'm currently developing a web browser. take a look at
>>36 sums it up. I don't see how you would teach the high level classes using high level languages that are designed to remove the need for lower level concepts found in the high level classes.
I believe Community Colleges are unable to teach the higher 300+ (or 3000+ in some places) courses. With that it would only be normal for them to teach only high level languages such Java, c#, and vb.net since there is no need to go over the low level concepts.
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Anonymous2007-02-26 4:20 ID:fY7H2Hdk
>>39
What about 9000+ courses, do they use Java Enterprise Edition?
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Anonymous2007-02-26 12:12 ID:34qsVGLm
>>19
I spent a year majoring in CS at UIUC before switching to Math*. You're pretty much going to be surrounded by mouth-breathing dimwits. Stay the fuck away from the intro computer graphics course (CS418) unless you have two non-idiots to take it with you. There's a three person project at the end, and if you have to work on it with random people you may as well kill yourself.
* (Math isn't actually any better in terms of the idiots : smart people ratio, but at least I don't have to work with any of them)
Programmers that only know high-level languages like Java are the idiots that lose their jobs to outsourcing, because they are only capable of generic work.
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Anonymous2007-02-26 23:36 ID:A0oFDaMv
Yeah, I'm in compsci for computability. My favorite topics are data organization/data structures and operating system theory. It's more fun than game dev. in my opinion.
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