Eclipse happens when a planet or star ends up in front of another from your point of view, so you cannot see, or can only partially see, the one that's farther away.
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Anonymous2006-12-01 15:39
Eclipse has the weaknesses of java (memory, resources, swing), but is otherwise awesome IDE. When coding Java, I use it for anything that takes more than one class.
I use eclipse at work for just about everything, including Rails with the RadRails plugin and the actionscript for a flash project. In college, I used it for java and C (with the CDT plugin). It worked awesome for everything I threw at it, but I don't really demand much from an IDE. I prefer vim, but when you need to switch between many files in a complicated directory structure (ie, with Rails) it comes in handy. Is there a vim mode for eclipse?
I love Eclipse. It's such a robust and featured IDE, and it's free!
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Anonymous2006-12-02 9:13
only noobs use eclipse
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Anonymous2006-12-02 11:46
>>13
* You mean noobs use eclispe
* Below medicore programmers stop using eclipse, thinking their to good for it
* Medicore and up use whatever, including eclipse.
If Eclipse is outnoobed, only noobs will use Eclipse.
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Anonymous2006-12-02 19:42
You see, it's attitudes like that which give birth to trolls.
Just a warning on this next paragraph, DON'T YOU DARE CALL ME A TROLL BECAUSE YOU STARTED IT!
4chan is pretty much 99% crass hypocrites. It's one thing to tell someone to screw off, but it's another thing to tell someone to screw off when you are the one screwing yourself off. It's one thing to be a hypocrite, but it is much better to be a hypocrite and admit it (like me). I try to take the high road and I get slapped. Thanks for nothing, Anonymous.
Now, is someone going to help me, or is everyone tried of slapping me, so I should expect a kick in the balls next?
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Anonymous2006-12-02 22:45
Anyways, >>1, please listen to me. That it's really related to this thread. I went to Yoshinoya a while ago; you know, Yoshinoya? Well anyways there was an insane number of people there, and I couldn't get in. Then, I looked at the banner hanging from the ceiling, and it had "150 yen off" written on it. Oh, the stupidity. Those idiots. You, don't come to Yoshinoya just because it's 150 yen off, fool. It's only 150 yen, 1-5-0 YEN for crying out loud. There're even entire families here. Family of 4, all out for some Yoshinoya, huh? How fucking nice. "Alright, daddy's gonna order the extra-large." God I can't bear to watch. You people, I'll give you 150 yen if you get out of those seats. Yoshinoya should be a bloody place. That tense atmosphere, where two guys on opposite sides of the U-shaped table can start a fight at any time, the stab-or-be-stabbed mentality, that's what's great about this place. Women and children should screw off and stay home. Anyways, I was about to start eating, and then the bastard beside me goes "extra-large, with extra sauce." Who in the world orders extra sauce nowadays, you moron? I want to ask him, "do you REALLY want to eat it with extra sauce?" I want to interrogate him. I want to interrogate him for roughly an hour. Are you sure you don't just want to try saying "extra sauce"? Coming from a Yoshinoya veteran such as myself, the latest trend among us vets is this, extra green onion. That's right, extra green onion. This is the vet's way of eating. Extra green onion means more green onion than sauce. But on the other hand the price is a tad higher. This is the key. And then, it's delicious. This is unbeatable. However, if you order this then there is danger that you'll be marked by the employees from next time on; it's a double-edged sword. I can't recommend it to amateurs. What this all really means, though, is that you, >>1, should just stick with today's special.
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Anonymous2006-12-03 3:15
* Medicore and up use whatever, excluding NetBeans and Eclipse
Fixed.
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Anonymous2006-12-03 9:09
>>18
But... I really like Eclipse :S
What should I use instead?
With lots of plugins, free open source and a nice interface?
Code completion (even of classes you haven't written yourself).
Educate moi!
>>22
ed is so simple that it makes all but the most trivial of editing a pain in the ass.
ditto for edlin, ms-dos edit, windows notepad, etc.
>>24
too bad those HCI "improvements" come at the expense of advanced editing features and speed.
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Anonymous2006-12-03 16:41
>>25
ed? simple? it's actually pretty bloated (line numbering) but it's the best you can get
making editing simple is just a matter of learning the editor
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Anonymous2006-12-03 17:36
There is a difference between expert usability and newb usability. Unfortunately newb usability doesn't help experts and often gets in their way. To say eclipse is for newbs is also disengenious. The problem with eclipse is that to properly modify and change eclipse you need to shovel (literally) at least 10kloc of code out the door.
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Anonymous2006-12-03 18:00
>>25 too bad those HCI "improvements" come at the expense of advanced editing features and speed.
You haven't used PSPad, Ultra-Edit or Kate.
>>28
i haven't used pspad or ultra-edit, but i have used kate and it's much slower than nvi.
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Anonymous2006-12-04 3:29
>>30
I'll agree that Kate scales worse than vi (PSPad better but I think it was a bit slower too), but you'd have to see Ultra-Edit, it's about as fast and doesn't need to keep all the file in memory; it's also an efficient hex-editor.
>>32
IBM is just another consulting company. One that is becoming notorious for overcharging, selling useless enterprise solutions and for sending in crowds of moronic consultants who know only how to write enterprisey Java with all the bells and whistles that serve only to add to the complexity of the system.
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Anonymous2006-12-04 12:48
I'd say IBM is a company you can be sure it'll get the job done, but you can't be sure about how. They will want to sell you 10 times more hardware than you need and they'll develop one of these terribly bloated scalable enterprise solutions to make managers happy with all the buzzwords (web 2.0, scalable, business, professional enterprise solution, AJAX, XML, XSL, J2EE, etc.) and justify the hardware.
I.e. if you IBM to write a maze-solving program which displays the labyrinth and solves it, they'll sell you one of their dual-processor servers (at the very least) with a professional Java enterprise scalable solution which runs over an Xbox-sized J2EE application server, but it's only used to read an XML file of parameters, transform it into another XML file with XSLT, finally read the parameters from there, then generate a block of JavaScript to send the client (in an XHTML 1.1 web page, of course). This JavaScript block connects back to the server using XmlHttpRequest to obtain the rest of the data, and draws the maze by asking the server for SVG files (generated on the fly). The application will come with a professional enterprise scalable log, audit, trace, debug and profile utilities which generate more XML so you can load it in your Business Intelligence application (which they offer to sell you). They'll take a couple of months to develop and deploy the application.
Then if you ask WAHa or any other real programmer for it, in 15 minutes you'll get a single-file, simple stdout-based script that does the job and runs in your abacus.
On the fourth of December, the endless armies of consultants from hell came into our world. Five of us have been able to hide away in a gigantic business complex, there might be others like us still out there.
Hmm... the fax machine should not be working as all the power is cut, why is there a message coming. Okay, I've got to go, there's something large at the door...
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Anonymous2006-12-05 7:14
Wow, I'm glad my company actually just gets stuff done and doesn't rely on overpaid consultants to overengineer a 'solution'