Correct me if I'm wrong, but regardless of how shitty a language is, how to program is what you need to learn mostly, not the language so much?
I'm in the process of learning how to make Ruby my bitch. It's as easy as fuck, but everything I can do here has an equivilent in C and C++, they're just a fuckload more complicated to do it in. An easier gradient, so to speak.
I'll get to the bad boys eventually, but I'm not going to climb everest before I climb the hill in my backyard.
Java produces shit programmers. Now if you'd said Perl...
fixed.
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Anonymous2006-09-17 10:58
>>47
>I think automating mundane tasks in Linux is great programming
fixed
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Anonymous2006-09-17 12:15
>>44
That is true, a good programmer should be able to pick up a new language in a matter of days. However this is /prog/, so everyone is a fanboy of the first and only language they learned.
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Anonymous2006-09-17 14:59
C++ was my first language, even before English.
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Anonymous2006-09-17 21:45
>>47
I'm angry and unemployed beacuse my so called 'programming' skills I learned myself aren't good enough to be considered for any real work.
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Anonymous2006-09-17 22:38
>>50
Oh yeah? Well... welll... I'LL TEACH MY BABY ASSEMBLY AS HIS FIRST LANGUAGE.
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Anonymous2006-09-18 0:11
>>51
employers want either certificates and/or portfolios of work that you've done. for software development, you better have an impressive porfolio
sir, I have a feeling that you are indeed wealthy and sucessful.
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Anonymous2006-09-18 4:49
>>54
indeed I am, unlike your fat american lazy ass lol!!!
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Anonymous2006-09-18 4:59
>>46
More like Java produces masochist programmers and enterprise solution dumbasses.
>>53
True. And when they hire people for a good portfolio, they get good rpgorammers. When they hire people for certifications, they get Java professional enterprise scalable solution consultants which fuck projects up. You just ask your boss "why did you hire Bob?" and you know if the answer starts with "well, he has a", then he's usually going to be a failure.
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Anonymous2006-09-18 7:24
Bad management pick Java. Remember this when a large project's failure is attributed to "bad management".
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Anonymous2006-09-18 7:31
I'm angry and unemployed beacuse my so called 'programming' skills I learned myself aren't good enough to be considered for any real work.
Yup, that's what happens when you pick Java, the joke's on you.
How come there are so many fags who can only use some crappy script language and try to piss on everybody who can actually program?
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Anonymous2006-09-18 17:00
>>60
People who use the term 'scripting language' as a derogatory only expose their own incompetence.
The power of a language depends on how well it lets the program describe the solution to his problem without having to waste time with things not directly related to his problem, not whether or not it's compiled.
>>60 is still unemployed so he hasn't learnt the price of time. He'd rather waste all the evening implementing some kind of list structure (for the n-th time in humanity's History) than get things done.
>>63
So, have you solved finished your simple linked list yet?
P.S.: I doubt you'll ever come up with dictionary implementations as good and efficient as Perl's or Python's, let alone have the syntax to do dictionary[key] or (key in dictionary).
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Anonymous2006-09-19 6:43
>>64
>P.S.: I doubt you'll ever come up with dictionary implementations as good and efficient as Perl's or Python's
Never mind there are already decent implementations. Shows what you know about real programming languages, script fag.
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Anonymous2006-09-19 6:59
>>65
Which you never use because you love writing everything by yourself. Plus, like I said, I don't really like DictGetKey(Hash(&key)) .