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Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 21:23

Hello,I would like to start with C++..I know almost nothing about C ..post any links or book suggestions for C++ (for total newbies)

Thx.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 22:17 (sage)

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 22:18 (sage)

almost forgot: www.myfirstcomputer.com

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 22:58

oh yes, please don't tell me google.com -_- and www.myfirstcomputer.com = 404

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 0:34

A tip; you'll spend a long time learning it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 1:27

Please just take a class.  Check if it is offered at your school and if not, take it at a community college or something.  A class will at least offer you some sort of structure and incentive to keep learning it, and you will have people willing to answer your questions because they are paid to.  We aren't getting shit, so if you ask a question here, we'll probably just make fun of you.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 4:22

>>6
Well, got a pretty prompt reply on the sin() and cos() things.  But yeah, I agree, without structure, it's hard to learn something like programming.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 4:44

>>1
That's like saying, hello, I want to learn quantum physics. I know almost nothing about uniform movement physics.

Don't learn C++. It's an ugly headache of a language. Be a man, learn the real thing - C, then learn C++-- which is what most people use. After C, also consider modern, high-level, dynamic languages such as Python or Ruby.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 14:23

Hello, I would like to compete in the olympics. I know almost nothing of physical activity because I am a lazy piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 17:03

Jesus christ why is everybody on this board a complete asshole.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 17:33

>>7
I'm >>6, and I'm also the one that answered your sin() and cos() question.  Seriously, PLEASE JUST TAKE A CLASS.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 17:46

PROTIP: Writing the 'Hello world' program does not count for shit.

PROTIP: You will never write anything resembling a computer game learning on your own. Get over it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 18:18

>>8
then learn C++-- which is what most people use
What world do you live in?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-04 19:38

>>10
*Points to URL*
It says 4chan.

Ok, since you caught me in a nice day: Hey man, sorry if I was too rough. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings; I took it that you were up to it because you post at 4chan, and only assholes like myself are regulars here. Now please consider what we said; even though we did in an asshole way, most of us gave good advice.

Name: EleoChan !EhVtXXdTd6 2006-09-04 22:38

Just download some books.  You can probably find a pack of programming books on any public bittorrent tracker.  I can't recommend any, because people have different ways of learning stuff.

I wouldn't suggest you take a class unless you have 0 experience with programming.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-05 1:10

>>15
I wouldn't suggest you take a class unless you have 0 experience with programming.
Your logic is retarded.  Educated professionals are better.

Name: EleoChan !EhVtXXdTd6 2006-09-05 4:12

The only thing a teacher is really good for is answering specific questions that a book either doesn't cover or doesn't explain well.

But there's a whole internet for asking programming questions and lots of people willing to help (unlike this rectum of a BBS).  Often times I learn loads of stuff from experienced programmers on IRC just by asking chains of questions for sometimes hours at a time.  I could never imagine asking or having answered that many questions in a classroom setting; the teacher would never devote that much time during class for as many questions as I ask.

If the OP is a newb he should start with a book.  If he find a book inadequate he can always take a class.

But a pirated ebook is free.  A college course is not.  So why would you suggest he automatically drop money for something he might not even need to drop money on?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-05 17:16

The C++ Programming Language, by Bjarne Stroustrup. All you need to learn C++.

Reading The C Programming Language might be a good idea first if you're not very experienced with languages.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 2:43

First learn C, then C++. If you're smart, use K&R's book. If you aren't, use some light, feelgood, let's hello world C book, then move on to K&R. After knowing C inside out, you may consider C++, but you'll discover you don't want it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 18:14

I don't use books or anything to learn a language. I just look over a tutorial first, then use the library references for a random program I feel like writing. I don't see why someone would need a whole book to learn a language -- are there like syntax idioms or something on the book? I've never seen a language book that just showed how the language works, only ones where they taught programming with the language being secondary.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 19:55

>>20
that's a good one! you're not serious, are you?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 23:41

>>21
lol, yes i am.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-07 0:06

>>21
Anyone should be able to do that after they've learned one language.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-07 1:15

syntax and libraries should be easy to learn. what needs to be taught is programming and design skills.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-07 3:47

>>24
Truth, except Perl's syntax and Java's libraries, which are not easy to learn (but you don't really need a book for them either).

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-07 4:34

>>25

what about brainfuck?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-13 14:14

Learn VB.NET

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-13 15:15

>>27 Learn fail.
fixed

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-13 20:08

>>28
Quote fail.
fixed

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 14:22

>>28

I bet you've never even used it. It's actually pretty good.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 14:29

>>8
>Python or Ruby

Will you please stop recommending these piece of shit toys already?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 18:06

Fucking start with VB, seriously why not.  Otherwise you are going to get really bored really quickly with C++ when you find it annoying as shit to do anything.  You will get to C++ eventually when you are actually ready for it. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 22:10

>>32
noob advice. the blind lead the blind

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 22:40

>>33
make a fucking correction then, you fucking idiot

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 22:41

>>34 THIS ISN'T
A WIKI

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-15 23:39

>>32

is not a real programmer

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-16 3:05

>>36
No, but he might make a good teacher.

Neophytes need constant feedback and a low threshold. C++ ain't it.

Not that VB is ideal either.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-16 3:08

I her delphi was good too

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-16 19:34

Delphi or even Pascal are good to learn because they are simple enough, anal enough, yet orthodox and polite enough, and they are smaller. You don't want to start with a HUGE language and have to bother with buffered readers, class objects, pure functions, or whatever shit, all you need is a tool to help you get the way of programming into your head, then you can move on to do something useful.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-16 20:01

>>39
You can believe it as hard as you can, Pascal is still the shittiest language on this planet.

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