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The truth about Emacs

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-09 15:14

The truth about emacs

It's a text editor with a scripting language backend that lets you do anything with the editor.

That's it.

Since Emacs have been around 30 years, its age has allowed people to write endless scripts, and develop an amazing system of a few hundred shortcut keys to access those scripts.

30 years has also led to its great shortcomings. Emacs scripting library has mutated into a monster that must be tamed before you can really wield the power of this beast. In addition, it uses outdated terms (yank, pull, M-key), and, while its scripting language (Lisp) showed promise at the time, it is now hardly seen in practice. And to top it all off, the shortcut keys seem to have been chosen arbitrarily by a bunch of hackers who, while great programmers, had never heard of such things as 'ergonomics' or 'user friendliness'.

Given my initial description of what Emacs are, I think it's safe to say that any text editor that meets that criterion is an Emacs.

Here would be one example:
http://www.cse.yorku.ca/~oz/wily/pythonpaper.html

No one should be surprised that Emacs' relic scripting language is one of the reasons it flounders. Donald Knuth addressed this same problem in his "The Art of Computer Programming" book. He wanted his work to last, so he didn't want to choose any language of the day to use for code examples, because in a few years it would be obsolete.

There isn't going to be any timeless language to use for the backend of Emacs. So why not do something like the Wily editor is doing: allow the use of any scripting language.

Emacs is a dying program. It was never designed to handle a lifespan of 30 years. Maybe this new Wily editor will be. It's really not that hard to top Emacs. I'm just surprised no one has bothered to do so in the last 3 decades.

Name: Xancer 2006-08-09 15:23

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Name: Anonymous 2006-08-09 22:51

emacs is awesome. You can post on 4chan, you can irc, play tetris and validate ocaml code all in the same editor.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 0:29

>>3
yeah, last time I checked a program that lets you run other applications is called an OPERATING SYSTEM.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 14:04

>>3 enjoy surfing an imageboard on your CLI web browser!

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 14:30

>>5

That would be pretty witty if it wasn't for the fact that GNU Emacs has supported inline images for over five years (XEmacs has had full image support for at least ten years now).

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 14:38 (sage)

>>6
How do I showed image on my VT100?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 14:43

>>7

You quit your subpar trolling and realized that no one has actually seriously used CLI Emacs for some 15 years.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 15:57

>>8
lol grammar
is this post supposed to be a 2nd-person story?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-11 22:39

I tried emacs and it's so much better than vim. thanks. I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT.

Name: NonymousQ !blYX95h1wc 2006-08-11 23:27

HURRR nano is far better.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-12 2:25 (sage)

ed or GTFO

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-13 12:07

Apostates! TECO is the One True Editor!

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-13 13:22

Use cat, faggots.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-13 13:23

>>11
nano users' contributions to editor wars are like bringing a catapult and chariots to a battlefield filled with heavy artillery and tanks, all while being totally unaware of how stupid you make yourself look.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-13 16:48

>>15
Bringing ed to an editor war is like bringing a pocket knife... and winning the war.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-13 19:24

FAGGOTS
use mg(1) <http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=mg>;
emacs fucking sucks, but at least it's not vi.

Nano is much much much worse though.

Name: Penis Moai 2006-08-13 20:31

>>8

I use CLI Emacs, but then again I don't use it for anything other than as an IDE for programming.  80x25 text mode is just easy on my eyes.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 1:09

Bringing vi to an editor war is like bringing an army of guerrilla fighters that, while their techniques are strange and require years of learning to grasp, are much faster and efficient than the enemies.

Besides, hexen kicks vi's ass.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 1:09

Bringing vi to an editor war is like bringing an army of guerrilla fighters that, while their techniques are strange and require years of learning to grasp, are much faster and efficient than the enemies.

Besides, hexed kicks vi's ass.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 4:00

emacs sucks sure there're hotkeys for emacs but they just get dropped to Lisp, they're archaic, and they SUCK, which means that it is still a PIECE OF SHIT.

vi sucks sure there're config files for vi but they just get dropped to ~, they're not too powerful, and it's MODE BASED, which means that it is still a PIECE OF SHIT.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 13:37

>>21
win.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 13:40

>>22
Fail for winraring an idiotic forced meme.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 15:04

ed rocks sure there's no UI but that's just for people who were dropped on the head when they were babies, they're retards, and they suck, which means that is is still the BEST EDITOR EVER.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-14 15:32

>>23
It's not a meme, it's HILARIOUS COMEDY. Don't call it idiotic just because you don't get it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-15 17:30

>>24
lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-16 9:56

ed rocks sure there's no UI but that's just for people who were dropped on the head when they were babies, they're retards, and they suck, which means that is is still the BEST EDITOR EVER.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-16 18:00

>>27

Repeating posts makes you MORE CORRECT!

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-14 12:52

LISP

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-06 6:09

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-06 6:12

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It's better than nothing   ASP NET took   a very different   approach to the   computer Colour me.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-27 12:54

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Name: Anonymous 2013-07-21 10:23

check em

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-21 10:36

Vim.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-21 10:44

Vim.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-02 10:27

Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-02 13:10

And this is relevant, because...?

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