yeah. Do not use futallaby. It has not been updated in a long time.
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Anonymous2006-07-04 13:01
well I tried wakaba
But I have some problems
Do I install it the same way as futallaby?
I tried to do like it was in the tutorial and it didn't work...
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Anonymous2006-07-04 16:54 (sage)
no, you don't install it the same way as futallaby. if you want help, you'll have to be more specific with describing the problems that you are having. also, there is a board for wakaba installation problems: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/
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Anonymous2006-07-07 7:57
Does wakaba generate own database tables by itself or the admin has to create them?
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Anonymous2006-07-07 9:49
It does everything, once you've edited the config file.
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Anonymous2006-07-09 1:59
How does Liu Kang's Futalluby go again?
Block Block up up? or was that scorpion?
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Anonymous2006-07-12 5:28
K, wakaba needs an empty database (schema) created and defined on config.pl After that it really does everything by itself.
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Anonymous2006-07-13 20:39
Wakaba has no database, only plain HTML files. To get reply #2, it reads line #2 (or was it #3?) from the HTML file.
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Anonymous2006-07-13 23:36
>>10
You're thinking of Kareha, the sister of Wakaba.
Wakaba == imageboard software for high-load sites. Uses a DB.
Kareha == more flexible image- and text-board software. Uses flat files.
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>for high-load sites.
let's not jump to conclusions now...
don't you think "read line N from a file" and "append a line to a file" has less overhead than connecting+querying MySQL? :)
i suspect that kareha is faster at the primary operations associated with an image/discussion board (insertion/retrieval). wakaba is better at doing other kinds of stuff with the data, which makes it simple for it to have flood protection and more advanced admin features (like delete posts by ip).
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Anonymous2006-07-14 10:28
Heh, it's not exactly leaping to a conclusion. I'm running both kareha and wakaba on a site, and while the wakaba boards are a lot more popular, their load is just a blip compared to kareha's. :)
Thinking in terms of DBMS versus flatfiles is missing the forest for the trees, because it's the execution of the scripts in the first place that is most expensive. Kareha makes many more calls to the script than wakaba does, which is why it can be more flexible.
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Anonymous2006-07-15 3:11
>>13
hmm, i wonder if kareha would become better than wakaba under fcgi/mod_perl then?
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Anonymous2006-07-15 10:58
Probably not, because static html is nigh impossible to beat.
But it'd come a lot closer. I hope at some point that Kareha will get FastCGI support. Porting a perl proggie from standard CGI to FastCGI is quite painless, and (at least for captcha.pl) it cuts the load by ~90%.
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Anonymous2006-07-17 12:45
>>15
Arr... imho wakaba is somewhat static?
I mean reading threads is statical.
Script generates html only if new post/reply is done.
Maybe I just have not seen "high volume trafic" enough.
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Anonymous2006-07-17 20:52
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That's correct. It's because wakaba.pl is only run when someone posts that wakaba handles load better than kareha. Posting is rare compared to pages served.
I missed one wrinkle though, and that is that captchas are very expensive, because they're run per pageview. If you leave the captcha enabled, the difference between wakaba and kareha isn't as large.
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