TCPA WILL KILL 4CHAN AND THE INTERNET

TCPA WILL KILL 4CHAN AND THE INTERNET "READ ME"

Windows Vista will do this

The consequences:
Thus you're able to determine the consequences for your own situation, we kept this section very generell. But it should be easy to determine the resulting restrictions that would apply for you.

# The informational self-determination isn't existing anymore, it's not possible to save, copy, create, program, ..., the data like you want. This applies for privates as for companies
# The free access to the IT/Software market is completely prevented for anyone except the big companies, the market as we know it today will get completely destroyed
# Restrictions in the usage of owned hardware would apply
# The liberty of opinion and the free speech on the internet would finally be eliminated
# The own rights while using IT-technologies are history.
# The national self-determination of the der particular countries would be fully in the hands of the USA
# Probably the world would break into two digital parts (Countries that express against TCPA

Lear More at

http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml

Treacherous computing is the reason why I'm not installing that Vista piece of shit ever, unless it gets mildly cracked, is ridden of the new themes, and removed 512 MB of bloat in RAM. Wait, then you get Windows XP.

Dang.  We'll have to go back to copying images on photocopiers and dubbing CDs on to tapes.  Oh Snap!

What >>3 said. Really what's gonna kill freedom of speech, is internet surveillance so advanced that you can kill effective nonconformers before anybody outside government even noticed them.

Why wasn't I informed of this earlier?

>>4
Except that the government has nothing to do with Trusted Computing. Don't get me wrong; I think it's a vile intrusion upon people's rights, but the ones responsible are the companies promoting and implementing it. "ZOMG BIG BROTHER" won't get you anywhere.

>>6
if it succeeds, those companies will control the government.

>>7
Don't they already?

>>6
Big Brother Corp.

Why hasn't Slashdot had many follow-up stories on this issue in the last couple of years?  I remember it was a huge hoobaloo like back in 2000-2003 or something around that ballpark.

Learn how to use linux. Now.

>>11

If this shit becomes legally mandatory, Linux will have to enforce Treacherous Computing too.

>>12
NO U
Linux is open sauce. I can always disable or break treacherous computing, even if it's illegal. And if I see too many problems with it, I'll move to a country that doesn't suck.

>>13
fap fap fap

One thing you must realize is that if you don't email your gov, and fight in politics, and get people together to help you, then this stuff will go through. You have to fight it or you have already lost.

I think I can take some time off from fapping for the sake of future fapping.

>>15
Could you please help us invest a couple million in a representative?

>>12
Do you understand that Linux is not an american operating system? Do you know that there are other countries out of the USA? Do you understand that those countries don't have to obey the american law? How old are you?

>>17
Uh... how old are you? It's nothing new that the world has to obey amerikan law.

>>18
Which is why we don't use libdvdcss over here OH WAIT

>>18
troll fails hard, enjoy your DMCA!

>>20
>>18 is not troll. if non american businesses want to operate in america or provide goods or service to americans, they'd need to follow american law.

>>21
Good thing Linux isn't a business then.

>>21
Plus, European and Asian companies can always create fagged up versions of their software to sell in Amerikkka (you know, Redneck editions and all that) while we have the real thing outside Bushland.

>>22
redhat (you know, the guys who contribue the most to the kernel and to gcc?), ibm, novel, etc are businesses, however. OH SHI-

>>21
that's why intelligent companies don't operate in America.

RISE AND LIVE AGAIN, NECKBEARD THREAD

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This shit sounds scary.  But I looked at the date and realized this thread was 3 1/2 years ago and I'm still not living in a dystopia.  Phew!

It's not nearly as bad as they would make it sound (It's just an optional crypto processor, with a well documented interface. The only disagreeable part is that the user cannot easily (but it's still possible, if you have the money) access a few cryptographic secrets inside the chip), however there was enough potential for abuse of this, and luckily the FUD was somewhat effective, and this hasn't technology hasn't become too mainstream.

>>29
well thank god for FUD

FUD
Ridiculous.  We were neither uncertain nor doubtful.  We knew for a fact that this would be the end of free technology.

>>31

I'm fearful.

>>29
The point of the fear is that the person that owns the machine (the one who paid for the damn thing) cannot make free use of their machine without explicit permission from a third party master.

Even if these schemes are technically flawed (thus making the scheme ineffective) it's the principle that people actually place such subjugation onto the users' machines that makes us indignant. If you value your freedom, then you should boycott this technology until somebody figures out a way to return freedom back to the owner.

>>33
You can make free use of your machine, just some proprietary software will refuse to run unless it deems the machine "secure" enough (from its perspective, this has nothing to do with actual security). There are many technical and conceptual flaws which make the actual implementation breakable, and even unfeasible. The actual thing is implemented as an optional crypto chip/board which can be installed, it's nothing more than a simple general purpose CPU, a crypto CPU, an encrypted flash storage, and a "tamper resistant" eeprom which contains the main decryption keys for the flash and the rest. By tamper resistance, it's meant that the eeprom will attempt to erase itself if someone attempts to read/write to it directly(using some hardware probing device like those found in failure analysis labs). In practice, these things are far from foolproof. From the software side, there are many attacks possible as well, and the entire interface is documented and emulatable by an attacker that wishes to present a fake TPM device. The only part which can't be emulated is if the device is a real one(its public keys are registered in some database - but as far as it's known, the manufacturers never did setup servers which answered such queries, and I believe a lot of devices in use these days are not even registered, which makes this unenforceable in practice). Oh, did I mention that the device is completly optional, and the user has to go out of its way to install and activate it? There's even a protocol for key eviction, and so on...

In simple terms, if it were implemented seriously, it could be used for DRM, but the current implementation is not the most suitable for it, maybe future revisions will be. A hardware usb dongle device would provide more security(for DRM) than this in practice. I believe that if everyone would actually start relying on such devices for DRM, it would weaken their entire "security" in general, which may be regarded as a good thing by the crackers. However, these devices never did enter the mainstream, which is maybe a good thing, so there's nothing for you to worry about, even if it wasn't anything special to worry about. The only worrisome possibility would be if govts would make stupid laws which require everyone to use this device, and they would only allow "approved" software/hardware, which means such a device could be used by some politicians as a platform for controlling the PC market, however this doesn't have as much as to do with the actual device, as it has to do with laws.
Did I mention Mac OS X requires one of these to run, and did you hear there's many people running OS X on normal PCs without such devices?

Even desktop PCs can chew through a database with info on all 6.5 billion people on the earth.  I shudder to think what governments with resources to blow on invasive monitoring are doing to us right now.

I'm going to have to start shouting "I KNOW YOU'RE LISTENING" in empty rooms, as xkcd instructs me to.

>>35
I'm going to have to start shouting "I KNOW YOU'RE LISTENING" in empty rooms, as the voice in my head instructs me to.

>>35
sometimes (ok, often), when i'm thinking in a public place, i suddenly feel the need to think "GET OUT OF MY HEAD! STOP STEALING MY THOUGHTS! I KNOW YOU'RE THERE, YOU BASTARD!".
got to keep my thoughts private, you know?

>>34
The fact that these TCPA techniques may be fundamentally flawed is not the point. The point is all about the message that these organisations show towards "the customers". This message is: we have these machines for sale but if you want to do anything with your device, you must first obtain our blessing. The implication is that there is a master of the device and that master is not the one that paid for the device.

Once again, the point isn't about the ability to crack flawed systems. The point is about being principled enough to live as a free and upstanding member of society - you cannot live as an free citizen if you are forced to hide a moral activity from authority figures.

>>38
forced to hide a moral activity from authority figures.
Welcome to humanity.

>>38
Not these fucking rimmis definitions of "free and upstanding" again. Listen, IP is bullshit and the DMCA is an absurd law. But where does the FSF get off thinking that their abuses of IP and copyright are justified, because their cause is somehow nobler?

We had to burn the village in order to save it!

>>40
Cool strawman bro.

>>41
I don't see how I misrepresented any of rimmis's ``arguments''. Care to explain?

>>42
But where does the FSF get off thinking that their abuses of IP and copyright are justified, because their cause is somehow nobler?
There was no argument here made about:
The FSF
abuse of Internet Protocols and copyright
justifications of this abuse to promote a cause

When one buys a machine, it is expected that the purchaser becomes the master of the machine. This principle is twisted with the introduction of TCPA in which the user does not control the keys to their own machine. The argument here is about TCPA and how the user cannot live in freedom while the keys are held to some third party master.

>>43
Internet Protocols
0/10, goodbye

>>41
every time i hear someone say "strawman" i feel like strangling them.
it's the most obnoxious word i have ever come across and i'm not sure why.

every time i hear someone say "GNU/Linux" i feel like strangling them.
it's the most obnoxious word i have ever come across and i'm not sure why.

every time i hear someone say ``Haskell`` i feel like strangling them.
it's the most obnoxious word i have ever come across and i'm not sure why.

every time i hear someone say "GRUNNUR" i feel like hugging them.
it's the most delightful word i have ever come across and i'm not sure why.

>>48
I totally agree with this. "GRUNNUR" has been the only bright spot in a long, dark, and confusing year.

>>48-49
"GRUNNUR"

Can I get a hug now? I need one :(

"GRUNNER" - Where do you want to go today?

ARE YOU READY FOR ENTERPRISE "GRUNNER" ?

>>50
*hugs*

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56 Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 0:17

>>1
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