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Debugging is for idiots

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-25 8:45

If you used a real man's programming language like Lisp or ML then you would have no need for gdb and it's (false) friends.

Having to debug a program is (IMO) a sign of sloppiness and shows that what you've set out to do is beyond your intellectual capacity to bring to completion.

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-25 13:35

plz teach me in the lisp/ml ways of mercyless extermination of bugs, oh enlightened one!

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-25 15:03

mmmmm.... nope... debugging is not based only on logical errors, ANYONE can make a mistake writing some variable incorrectly or some function with a wrong declaration... or since when you see a person with perfect caligraphy or spelling skills? or tell me if you have compiled a LISP program that has missing ")" and you spend hours looking for it? STFU

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2005-04-25 18:16

>>1
hay troll buddy

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-26 1:51

i use my own combination of d and basic so i never make mistaeks cuz d is awesome and so am i

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-27 18:48 (sage)

>>1 is either a complete idiot, or a wannabie troll.

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-28 6:31

>>3
>>6

I see the need for debugging in your case - you can't even master the syntax of the English language.

Name: Anonymous 2005-04-28 7:08 (sage)

>>7 is either a complete idiot, or a wannabie troll.

(oh no! the commas!)

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-01 3:00

>>1
Never mind that in any software engineering development process, there is ALWAYS a debug/revision subprocess, iterative or not. Never mind that professional IDEs always have a way to create debug builds. Never mind that companies spend millions of dollars on hiring test engineers to design and execute unit testing on code to debug it. Never mind that corporations stake their existance on using and releasing testing suites year after year after year.

Go back to writing your "Hello, World!" programs and STFU.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-01 9:22

People also like to use Java and Windows, and more generally people also like to murder, rape, start wars and believe that a two housand year old Jew on a stick is a God. And then there are people like you who use argumentum ad populum.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-02 1:31

That's one way to look at it. The other way is to note that those tools are tested and understood. They may not be perfect languages, but more factors need to be considered in the selection of a language than beauty alone.

Which doesn't change that >>1 is both a fucktard and a troll. You have to debug ML and other functional languages too. You do get rid of a large set of bugs and errors, but not all of them.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-28 23:40

People who have erasers on their pencils are stupid. Anyone who ever needs to erase anything they write down is obviously so stupid that they should never be allowed to write again.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-29 6:42

>>12

Invalid analogy.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-29 18:48

Debugging involves design bugs, not just programming bugs, no?

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-30 4:21 (sage)

>>14
don't feed >>1

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-30 8:12 (sage)

>>1

You need to improve your trolling skills. Any serious application is subject to have bugs in any language it's written - say you have two bools, user and luser, and have to do stuff like (pseudocode):

if (user)
    display "Command incorrect"
else if (luser)
    display "Call somebody who knows"

You can easily mess with user and luser in any language, any way this is done.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-31 1:05

>>16

Only if you're a dyslexic idiot.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-31 4:16 (sage)

>>17 is quite obviously an experienced developer.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-31 5:32 (sage)

Yeah, doesn't look like he wrote anything larger than a hundred lines.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-01 1:15

>>12

Debugging is akin to a professional writer using the MSWord grammar tool (or whatever) to fix his novel.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-01 3:51

>>20
Comparing writing to programming doesn't speak well of yourself.

This is such a blatant troll, nobody can defend that being a serious developer.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-01 4:40 (sage)

shit sux saged dammit

Name: Christy McJesus !DcbLlAZi7U 2005-06-01 10:56 (sage)

>>20

No because grammar is syntax. Bugs aren't syntax errors, they're semantic errors. This thread is comedy.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-01 16:01

>>23
Semantic errors could be compared to plot holes, right?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-02 4:15 (sage)

sage fucker, do you speak it?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-02 6:12

>>23

Go back to your Visual Basic .Net and leave the talking to the real men.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-02 6:38 (sage)

>>26
Go back to your AOL and leave the trolling to the real men.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-03 3:58 (sage)

I'll second Anonymous-san #25.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-18 3:23 (sage)

When I'm the Jesus of programming, I'll follow your lead.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 9:23

THIS THREAD IS AWESOME!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 10:27

A proper language, proper skill, proper IDE with proper syntax highlighting and unit testing = reasonably bug free program.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 11:27

real man's programming language like Lisp or ML
More like a faggot language for people who can't debug so they spend all their time thinking and write the correct code in the first place... Oh wait...

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 11:32

>>1
 SML/NJ used to be distributed with a debugger.  It was a pretty cool debugger because you could step it backwards as well as forwards.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-15 9:19

LISP

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-15 12:06

>>3
or tell me if you have compiled a LISP program that has missing ")" and you spend hours looking for it?

That has never happened.

>>31
IDE
syntax highlighting
I loled. What does utter faggotry have to do with bugs?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-15 12:25

>>1
agreed. debugging should be illegal.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-15 16:38

I declare this thread the equivalent of those terrible YouTube shit videos. I shall call it a /prog/ dump

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Name: Anonymous 2013-05-13 19:01

>>42
You think you are alone.  You think that on the depths of page N-1 nobody can hear you scream.

But I can.

Name: Anonymous 2013-05-19 19:46

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Name: Anonymous 2013-05-19 20:26

If you don't want bugs in your program, why do you put them there?

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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 7:37


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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 8:22


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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 9:07


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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 9:53


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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 10:38


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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 11:23


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Name: Anonymous 2014-04-01 16:24

Very true.

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