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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-22 11:39

Omg hai ^___^ I’m Lenin-san and I absolutely luuuv _____ socialism <3 and my fav is october revolution!!!
Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot comrade trotsky!!
<333333333 OMFGZ HE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN REVOLUTIONARY IN PERSON!!! Supa communism desu!!!!!!!!
^ ______________________________________ ^ When I walked onto Red Square = ^ ____ ^ =I looked up and saw…
TROTSKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3333333333333!!!! “доброе утро
OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA SOCIALIST TROTSKY-SAMA!!!!!” I yelled `____´ then he turned menshevik then
un-menshevik!! he looked at me [O.O;;;;;;;;;;;] and then he saw how marxist I am *___* he grabbed my working
class and rallied them ~_^ then pulled me behind a soviet o_o and started to propagandize me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HIS
PROPAGANDA TASTED LIKE PROLETARIAT!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)* then I saw some baka fat
bureaucrat watching us and I could tell he was reforming him with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I
COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (o_o) (o_o) (o_o) so I yelled “UH UH BAKA STALIN THAT’S MY COMRADE WHY DON’T YOU
GO HOOK UP WITH MAO CAUSE TROTSKY-SAMA STRUGGLES WITH ME!!! (o_o)” then trotsky held me close =^____^=
and said he would only ever fight for the working class and propagandized me again!!!!!!! ** (O)/
then we got censored out by government officials all night long and inspired 42 theorists and they all became
revolutionaries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YPAAAAA!!!*^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*(^o^)(^o^) (^o^)

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-22 12:43

>>1
Marx's ideas have been extremely politicized and it is difficult to avoid this in any discussion.

I believe a reasonable understanding of Marxism and its impact in the 20th century is not so much a case of him being wrong or right about everything, as his detractors and proponents will shout from the rooftops, but rather accepting that some of his ideas didn't play out in history while welcoming his abstract perspective of society.

For instance history has shown it was the development of an educated middle class that brought about the political liberalization which in turn allowed the working class to pass social welfare or push for "democratic socialism", no revolution, no middle class perpetuating the system that benefited them. Capitalism has also been proven to be less of a system created by the ruling class and more of a grudgingly accepted necessity, Suharto, the Asian tigers, Pinochet and Franco all saw their power wane as their economies increasingly capitalized

I believe Karl Marx broke down society logically, even if he was not the first to do so it has had an enormous impact on politics, I can't help but use his terminology when trying to explain various concepts, from reactionaries and petite-bourgeois to the proletariat and the means of production. The world is more complex than the class system and even concerning the class system Marx's breakdown is not sufficient for most things. You would not be doing yourself a favor intentionally trying to avoid Marx's contribution however.

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