Christianity

I love basic ideas of Christianity, especially Old Testament:
1. You are God's Chosen
2. Kill non-believers
3. Annex their land

What I don't like:
1. Christ is a kike
2. God is Jew "Yahweh" (even the sound Semitic)
3. Everything is based on Israel and ugly Jewish mythology.

Just cleanse God, Jesus Christ and Israel from the Bible and I'll accept your religion.

>>1
Welcome to Mormonism. Where pale-skinned "native-Americans" were the true chosen people. It says so right here on these shiny golden disks that I recently lost.

>>2
Sorry, Native-Americans are totally irrelevant in Russia. We need something like Bear God in place of Moses/Jesus/Muhammad and the supreme God would be Frost, which will cool the bodies of our enemies.

>>1
cleanse God, Jesus Christ and Israel from the Bible
You don't know?
Jews did the whole goddamn book! Every single word!
Without Jews, there'd been no Christianity. No Islam. No Abrahamic anything.

Nothing of value would have been lost, but odds are you'd not recognise the world.

Tl;dr: Look at something that ain't Abrahamic. Like Zen Buddhism. It let Japan have both samurai and ninja at the same time...

>>4
Jews did the whole goddamn book! Every single word!
Still the idea of being Chosen master race is sexy.

>>4
Zen Buddhism.
Peaceful religion of losers.

>>4
You don't know?
Persians wrote the original book! Every single word!
Without Persians, there would be no concept of heaven and angels. Nothing of value would be lost, but odds are you probably would not recognize a world without religion.

Tl;dr: Look at something that ain't Persian. Maybe Atheism, Freemasonry or Mormonism.

Can't we just agree to accept that all irrational beliefs not based on logic or observation of objective reality have no value?

>>8
"faith conquers cities"

>>6
Zen Buddhism
Peaceful religion
Where were you in the early 1940's?

>>7
Lolwut?

Persians wrote the original book
Really? Both the genesis myths? The exodus out of Egypt? Samson? King David?
Fun fact: There's a limit to how much you can steal and still be able to (credibly) pass shit off as yours.

a world without religion
And how exactly would a bible-free world be «without religion»?

Look at [...] Atheism
And what possessed you to believe that I'm even religious?

Look at something that ain't Persian
I mentioned Zen Buddhism. What exactly is Persian about that?

Freemasonry or Mormonism
- Freemasons are oh-so-not rabid Christians.
- Mormons see themselves as the next version of Christianity. (I don't even like Abrahamic religions, so I don't give a shit)

>>11
It's very Persian. They have been at peace with each other for 1000 years. No other religious rivals have been so loving towards each other as these two have. Buddhism is merely a Secular version of Zoroastrianism. http://alexanderbard.blogspot.com/2009/12/zoroastrianism-and-buddhism-in-central.html

>>12
They have been at peace [...] over 1000 years
I asked about Zen Buddhism; that's one. "They" and "each other" both mean "more than one".
Is it Islam that Buddhism has had peace with? Last I heard, there's not a whole lot of Buddhists left even in India, much less Pakistan or Afghanistan. Meaning the front line is in China by now.
(Btw, those (in)famous Afghan Buddha statues were more a mark of local cultural independence (from the Taliban) and so therefore a (symbolic) threat to them, than anything actually religious.)

Also, Buddhism is some 2500 years old. "Over 1000 years [ago]" is when Islam came to what's now Pakistan and Afghanistan (by way of the sword, as all Abrahamic religions seem to do). If the peace is between Buddhism and some non-Islam, then that looks more like "common enemy" or something.

it's very Persian
According to your own link, Zen is at least as much Taoism as Buddhism. Is Taoism perchance also Persian?

>>12 (continued from >>13)
Buddhism is merely a Secular version of Zoroastrianism
Then why is Buddhism based around a decidedly Vedic-looking universe?
There, all sorts of personalities, even gods, are drifting along the forces of an impersonal cosmos in a never-ending cycle of death and rebirth, with "Karma points" as the only real score, and no real end in sight -- except if one can end the incessant rebirth cycle and cease to exist altogether.

In Buddhism, there is no gods either; even Buddha himself is just a human being that decided to find the Truth, looked for it, found it, and decided to share it, for the common good of mankind.

>>14
>In Buddhism, there is no gods either
Um, no, that's incorrect. Two of the six higher realms of samsara exist exclusively for Gods and semi-Gods. Go look up the bhavacakra.

>>15
The designation "god" in Buddhism is a meaningless one and only demotes a level of creature above humanity; even the many lone-deities and the devas that are inheritted from Vedic culture are just passings.  They don't have fixed authorities, positions, names, powers, roles; the closest to a consistent position is Yama and even his status is "on lone" and not always consistent with Buddhist teaching.

Their existences can expire and, exhausted of good karma, they descend to the lower realms of the great wheel to start the their climb all over again.  "God realm" is just another transitory region; there is nothing that is free from samsara.

It should be added that the higher one is born (up to and including divinity), the more one's negative deeds count, and the less one's positive deeds.
Similarly; the lower one is born (pariah, animal, etc), the more one's good deeds count.

And so, once one is at the bottom, the only way is up. And once high-born (like god or demigod), the only way is down.
And, unlike the Abrahamic mythologies, there is nobody whatsoever outside the cycle. Much less a Creator/Father/BigBoss/whatever. Nothing. Nobody.

By extension, this means that the cycle was never "created"; it has always existed. And it will go on forever.
Which is why the death-and-rebirth cycle is eternal; the only way out is to cease to exist altogether.

Or you could just grow up, stop reading fairy tales and get on with your life.

Or you could just grow up, stop reading fairy tales and get on with your life.

Or you could just grow up, stop reading fairy tales and get on with your life.

Or you could just grow up, stop reading fairy tales and get on with your life.

>>18-21
Why is Richard Dawkins your spiritual leader now? That's kind of hypocritical isn't it?

You claim atheism is superior because it's not religion, then you go right ahead and turn atheism into a religion.

>>22
No one mentioned Richard Dawkins, nor is he a spiritual leader to anyone.

No claim was made that atheism is superior, only that religion is irrational bullshit with no basis in reality.

Atheism can't possibly be a religion, that is a logical contradiction. Religion requires faith, atheism is the default state of not having faith for things there is no evidence for.

>>23
No one mentioned Richard Dawkins
And? We all know what the deal is, there are no secrets on the internet.


Atheism can't possibly be a religion
It's not fascism when we do it!

>>23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_dawkins
http://www.biographybase.com/biography/Dawkins_Richard.html
Dawkins came to prominence with his 1976 book The Selfish Gene, which popularised the gene-centered view of evolution and introduced the term meme.
Jew by Halakha. His mother was Jean Mary Vyvyan Dawkins (nee Ladner). Ladner is a Jewish (Ashkenazic) occupational name for a shopkeeper, from a derivative of Laden 'shop'. Dawkins is a vice president of the British Humanist Association, and a supporter of the Brights movement. British Humanist Association committed to human rights, democracy, egalitarianis. The Brights movement is a social movement that aims to promote equal civil rights and acceptance for people who hold a naturalistic worldview. Dawkins cited the "Jewish lobby" as a model for his campaign. Dawkins describes himself as "a deeply religious non-believer. and calls his belief system "Einsteinian religion."

>>24
Um, no. You can't just link people to public figures because you feel like it.

>It's not fascism when we do it!
Do what?..

>>23
Atheism can't possibly be a religion, [...] Religion requires faith
You don't know? "Atheism" is not one but (at least) two views, that just happen to be less than eager to mix invisible sky wizards into things.
- "Weak Atheism", aka Agnosticism, says we can't know, since there's no credible evidence, and so just will not make assumptions,
- "Strong Atheism" positively believes, rather firmly, that there just is no such thing as a sky wizard, invisible or otherwise. Some will be outright fanatic in this belief.

FYI, Buddhism is something so unthinkable (atleast to christfags) as a fundamentally Atheist religion; nobody and nothing is outside the Cycle, it exists on its own accord. Even those branches that believe in "gods", see them as _inside_ the Cycle.
And so Buddhism is less concerned with rules than with philosophy, and so more inclined to go with relative morality (more vs less suffering) than with age-old stone tablets with words like "Cos I said so, that's why!".

A Jew was visited by Jehovah's Witnesses, offering free Bibles.
"We don't study Bible, we write it" - answered Jew.