As a democracy becomes larger and more complex voters rely increasingly on experts to figure out what is in their interest and for every expert there are 10 lobbyists posing as experts. As such there are limits to what can be decided "collectively" before corruption sets in, there is no fruit loop utopian vision that can simply wish away corruption and enable everything to be managed perfectly.
Thus it makes sense for socialists to think like capitalists, to recognise the limits of democracy and not overextend the limited administrative capital of voters, this would probably result in some kind of direct democratic system and strong local government taking care of welfare and public safety with otherwise unfettered capitalism everywhere else.
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Anonymous2012-08-19 23:47
oops, said grain instead of flour for some reason
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Anonymous2012-08-20 11:22
>>40 Why? Because people can cooperate for mutual gain? Even in cooperation there is competition.
Equal gain for both enemies is a draw, while the Jews are now a main enemy of every nation, so reasonable cooperation could be only against the Jews, just to put a big and dangerous enemy down.
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Anonymous2012-08-20 14:22
>>40 Let's say you're a baker and buying grain from a miller.
Everything goes nice, but then come the Jews. These Jewish brokers forces all country farmers to sell all their grain at a low price, and then, using this monopoly, forces all bakers to buy grain at a high price. The bread prices set a record in no time and people are now starving, while the filthy Jews are bathing in riches, calling simple people "bydlo" for not earning enough to buy a loaf of bread, and when somebody dies out of starvation the Jews say that it is the Law of Darwin and only the Jewish speculators will survive in the end.
Why aren't good leftists allowed to notice that the "bankers" and "plutocrats" they decry are mostly Jews?
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Anonymous2012-08-20 18:15
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Most leftist are Jewish themselves, while the communism is an absolute monopoly. I.e. they advance communism not to free farmers and bakers from the Jewish middle man, but to expropriate all the little farmers and bakers still have. Commie Jews will come to a farmer and say that from now on farmer will work for free, as a slave, and his farm and cows are now Jewish property.
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Anonymous2012-08-20 20:16
>Most leftist are Jewish themselves, while the communism is an absolute monopoly
Leftist yes. Communism not really.
>Commie Jews will come to a farmer and say that from now on farmer will work for free, as a slave
Oh, I'm sure that really happened in your mind. You've been so realistic thus far. LOL!
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Anonymous2012-08-20 20:18
>>44
>Why aren't good leftists allowed to notice that the "bankers" and "plutocrats" they decry are mostly Jews?
Because statistics and reality don't match your pretend reality. Just saying, bro.
Yes, a famine happened. Communists aren't very good at handling things that require intelligence. Those links don't even mention Jews.
You don't exactly drive a point home with your logic. It's as if there were magic ninja Jews with the power to control people's minds and rewrite history.
Have you considered being a fiction writer? I know a few Jews who can hook you up. :p
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Anonymous2012-08-20 23:51
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Lenin, Trotsky and Lazar Kaganovich were Jewish (while Stalin was a criminal bank robber), and most of their administration was Jewish.