EU is falling apart

John Taylor, founder of the world's largest currency hedge fund FX Concepts, spoke with Bloomberg TV's Erik Schatzker and Sara Eisen and said that Greece will leave the euro this year. He went on to say that, "this summer I think is very likely...the Europeans aren't going to give them money, the IMF's not going to give them an OK. They will be out of money in June."

Taylor on whether Greece will leave the euro after the next round of elections:

"There is another round to go yet as I believe they will have another election in June. Then it will come out the same way or perhaps even worse...This summer I think is very likely. The Europeans will not give them the money. The IMF will not give them an ok. They will be out of money in June."

A tad presumptuous. "We'll see" is a more measured response.

I say good. Nothing good came from the EU's existence. I think all politicians know this, but refuse to admit it.

nah, it'll be fine, might lose a few periphery colonies and take a while to cover, but it paves the way for closer intervention, and eventual recovery.

>>3
Being able to cross EU member borders without everyone stopping to show their passport/apply for a visa is pretty sweet. I think all Euro-skeptics know this, but refuse to admit it.

>>3
Yes. It's time to admit, that globalization has failed. Just like esperanto, communism and multiculturalism before.

>>5
Had EU succeeded, next thing would have been the elimination of unique histories and languages. I heard they already dismantled your national academies of science. No more french mathematicians, or german philosophers - just faceless gray mass of cattle.

>>6
You can't eliminate history. That's one of the dumber things you've ever said.

>>7
Just rewrite history books.

>>8
When has that ever permanently worked?

>>9
Post-WW2.

>>10
Much earlier. Church started Dark Ages by burning Ancient Library of Alexandria and many other minor history sources.

>>10
Please be more vague.

>>11
I was thinking perhaps of an instance of time where history is not known and recorded only by a handful of men. A more relevant example might be appropriate.

>>11
The Library of Alexandria was burnt down in 48BC, much to the Casear's credit and "by accident" is commonly appended.  The "Dark Ages" isn't considered to have started until around the sixth century our side of the 0 and is tied to the collapse of the much detracted Church's dominion.  Stuff did happen in those six hundred years, you know.

>>13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg5m8pkzWS4

The rise of the Coptic church of ancient Alexandria coincided with the destruction of its famous library, the desecration of its amazing temples and sanctuaries, and the murder of its last philosopher, Hypatia.

>>13
The "Dark Ages" isn't considered to have started until around the sixth century
Yep! When you burn all libraries or rewrite history, it will require some time for all literate people to die. A process called "subversion". For a modern example, see North Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

>>15
I'm going to ignore the implications of 5+ generations of people between the fall of the Library because the Romans and the implications of the Library of Alexandria being your only example.  Heck, I'll also ignore any scientific or literary contributions in those six hundred years AND the construction of other facilities in that same time.  Let's go to more fertile grounds: exactly what history do you propose was overwritten/rewritten?

>>16
I'm going to ignore...
You're free to ignore facts, that coptic pope burned the books. And while Nazis burned books symbolically (i.e. burning Karl Marx because he was a Jew), christfags did that to cover history.

Let's go to more fertile grounds: exactly what history do you propose was overwritten/rewritten?
Any. Even a photographer has subjective point of view. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation

>>17
I'm ignoring any arguments I could make using those points.  It is my belief that you would just deflect them with more vagaries and the conversation would never move forward, albeit at a snail's pace.  Book burnings, bannings, and assinations happen throughout the course of history; I am not arguing why it happens or how common it is.

Any.
So there is no endgame?  You're just stringing together a bunch of convenient historical events to build evidence of a conspiratorial cover-up of events on a massive historical level that exists because of a lull in history admittedly, poorly named the "Dark Ages," for the purposes of concealing bupkis?
You are the worst conspiracy theorist I've ever heard.

>>18
You're excogitating.

>>17
>Any. Even a photographer has subjective point of view
How did you even think that was a response?

Thank god.

Kick Greece, Spain, Ireland, and Italy down to non-fiscal membership in the union until their shit straight. Problem solved.

>>22
Problem not solved. You can't just kick four countries out of a fiscal union without hugely reducing confidence in the currency. The euro was a stupid, socialist idea but the whole thing collapsing all at once is not desirable.

bump for quality

the EU will fall apart eventually, for centuries empires always fell apart for the same reasons.

The situation in the eu is the reversed situation that was in the Austro-Hungarian empire in the 1840's
The Hungarians wanted to be sovereign, and therefore started rebellions, when they got an own parliament with an hungarian government they were happy.
In WW1 the rest of the ethnic groups wanted to be sovereign, and the austro-hungarian empire broke.(Chechz, slovakia, slovenia, Italians, polans and croatians)


What i'm saying is, right now, we give more and more Of our individuality up, and get an Big empire once again, but it won't work, because people don't want to be a moloch of cultures, the want to have an identity.

It was  the sme with the Irish, the Mexicans the Africans and all other Ethnical groups that were ruled by others, they want to be sovereign.

the EU will fall apart eventually, for centuries empires always fell apart for the same reasons.

The situation in the eu is the reversed situation that was in the Austro-Hungarian empire in the 1840's
The Hungarians wanted to be sovereign, and therefore started rebellions, when they got an own parliament with an hungarian government they were happy.
In WW1 the rest of the ethnic groups wanted to be sovereign, and the austro-hungarian empire broke.(Chechz, slovakia, slovenia, Italians, polans and croatians)


What i'm saying is, right now, we give more and more Of our individuality up, and get an Big empire once again, but it won't work, because people don't want to be a moloch of cultures, the want to have an identity.

It was  the sme with the Irish, the Mexicans the Africans and all other Ethnical groups that were ruled by others, they want to be sovereign.>>1

>>26
people don't want to be a moloch of cultures, the want to have an identity.
None cares what people want or not. It is being decided for them. The only question is to choice the right whip, to force the cattle moving into required direction.

In fact it is easy to force you to believe in God, Holocaust, purple invisible Ponies or into other retarded bullshit.

>>27
You are right, I'm still dazzled at people believing in such a thing as oxygen, too. Jews and their lies are everywhere.

I'm still dazzled at people believing in such a thing as oxygen
It sounds like a heavyhanded bait comment but I'll bite anyway since I'm very interested in this distortion.
"wat"

http://www.thewebcomiclist.com/o/8538

>>29
Perhaps he believes God, holocaust and purple invisible ponies are as real as oxygen.

>>31
People believe in all sorts of things that make you butthurt. Some are true. Some are not, son. When you grow up, you learn eventually that it doesn't really matter and move on.

I'm sorry I wasn't there to raise you. I'm so disappointed in you, but I know it was my fault you never learned common sense. Also, your mom.

>>32
what's that? your the dude who spat that little russian nigger in his mother's ass?

Shalom!

>>34
Yes, I know, son. It's OK. I still love you. Now bring me my sandwich.