Legalize Suicide

I want the right to kill myself. There shouldn't even be a discussion about it. I want the right to decide what happens to my own body in this most basic forms of self-control. Friends and family should respect that, and if they don't give me that right, and think that I should endure all sorts of suffering just for their selfish pleasures, then they can piss off. I am of sound mind, and I have reasons to live, but that right should be up to me. If I breathe should be my decision. If my organs work should be my decision. My entire body is not the property of everyone who happens to know me. If they really want me around so much that they would miss me if I die, then they should work for it. I am not their property, and they are not my friends if they think that they can blame me in any way for determining my own fate.

I don't know where to stand on suicide from a purely legal standpoint.  I understand why terminally ill people, sick elderly people, and people with painful and debilitating illnesses would want to commit suicide and think that they ought to be allowed to do it.  If someone lacks the above mentioned problems though, I think it is a terrible thing for them to do because of how much it hurts those around them.  The suicidal person is the one being selfish.  And what about people that have dependents like children or a spouse?  That is terribly irresponsible.  In my mind these are moral arguments as opposed to legal ones.

>>2
This kind of reasoning is like saying that a rape victim is being selfish and hurting the dependent rapist, isn't it?
It is ultimately my body and my life. Not even a wife with children should have any right to force her will on my body.
Selfishness requires that I would have something to gain from killing myself, when it is actually the very opposite: I would give my self up for nothing. It is the ultimate selfless selfsacrificing act, but the reason that you call it "selfish" is because you think of it as somebody stealing something from you, like if a person "belongs" to you, like some form of property.
If I would choose to leave a wife and child behind for some reason, it's because of far greater suffering. The bond that people feel to eachother, is bullshit compared to the bond that a person has to ones life.

I see no reason to be opposed to human euthanasia.

>>3

So its selfish for a child to want their parent around? And the child should be expected to understand why the parent wants to end their life and realize that they are selfish for wanting their parent to be there?  What if they're financially dependent on the suicidal person? Now that person is stealing from their dependents in a way. Most acts that don't harm other people are not considered crimes, while most acts that do harm other people are crimes.  Suicide does harm other people. It harms them emotionally and possibly financially. Suicide may not always be wrong, but a person who wishes to commit suicide should think carefully about what repercussions their actions may have on those around them.

Illegal or not, an attempted suicide will usually land the commissioner thereof in psychiatric treatment facility rather than in jail.

>>6
Yes, and ask yourself: Is that for my wellbeing, or because the state wants absolute control of my body, and don't want to see a potential asset escape their grasp?

>>7

A) suicidal person, implying severely depressed or otherwise unbalanced

B) potential asset to the state

choose one

>>4
How about abuse of the system? That guy gave his consent for me to assist his suicide, guv. I even got his signature I blackmailed/beat/tortured out of him.

>>7
Yes, it's the evil, phantom 1% acting through the state to control your body for their slave army! Look out, the 1% is swooping down on us! He's over there! No, now he's behind the cupboard! Under the bed! Behind you!

Or maybe the state believes that it is in the interest of individual to receive treatment to prevent the loss of life and its role to do something about it. Maybe the state or certain parts of it at least, recognize the objective value of life and how it shouldn't be thrown away because of a temporary state of mind that can be improved upon.

>>9
The "objective value of life"? How about the objective value of freedom? How about giving me the inherent freedom to CHOOSE whether I want to hold anything higher than my life? Even if I would throw my life away on some whim, that is still My Choice. As a responsible adult, one would think that I could be entrusted with my own life. Other people have no business telling me what I "should" and "shouldn't" do with it.

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>>9
How about abuse of the system? That guy gave his consent for me to assist his suicide, guv. I even got his signature I blackmailed/beat/tortured out of him.
The point of euthanasia in this case is to put a human being with chronic incurable illness (or something of that nature) free from pain and suffering. If the individual in question did not suffer from anything like such then it would be highly suspect, and the person responsible would be brought up on murder charges. Being that it had to be planned in advance, it would most likely be premeditated. Other people's culpability in such a murder would be determined on a case by case basis as it's done in the legal system for other murder cases already.

All forms of personal choice should be legal as long as you aren't infringing on another persons rights and/or harming them in the process.

You have to ask yourself: Is there really ANY difference between the seat belt laws that we have in this country and say the government deciding to send their storm troopers into McDonalds to fine and arrest fat people for eating Big Mac's?

>>12

I see what your saying, its just that suicide DOES harm other people in many cases.  See >>5

>>13
Like the 9-11 attacks. Very bad.

>>13
Fine, but if you accept that standpoint then you need to be ideologically consistent with it. That goes for fining and arresting people who take ANY bad habit to the extreme. Smoking, drinking, tanning, eating, compulsive shopping, etc, etc. At the end of the day, you can't legislate morality by forcing people to be moral.

And >>5
That argument makes absolutely no sense. Are you trying to suggest that some people won't kill themselves because it's illegal to do so? Honestly, think about that for a second.

>>1
Read Hume on the subject ('Suicide and the Immortality of the Soul'). As far as he was concerned, it would be more immoral to go on unnecesarily suffering if you'd tried to stop it but failed, and if death was the only solution left.

I'd tend to agree, suicide is okay, provided there genuinely is no other way out

Suicide is always ok. Freedom of choice, man. If the kids feel bad about their dad/mom killing themselves, then they can kill themselves too, if they wish to end the suffering.

Suicide is the ultimate act of expressing one's freedom in this world. There is nothing immoral or wrong with it.

Murder is always ok. Freedom of choice, man. If the kids feel bad about their dad/mom being murdered, then they can kill someone too, if they wish to end the suffering.

Murder is the ultimate act of expressing one's freedom in this world. There is nothing immoral or wrong with it.

look, it's just silly to make suicide illegal: what're you gonna do: kill me for it???