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a strong fondation,for a prosperous country

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-18 15:50

Every day, i see the feds spending too much money.

My first part of the solution is to have a balanced amendment that states that the government can't spend more than what it takes in.

My second part of the solution is the gold standard, so that at the end of the day the government does not keep on printing money.

My third Solution is to completely gut the tax system, as we all know it's 100% jive,and we as a nation spend hundreds of billions of dollars each year to pay our taxes.

Why not a fair tax as the first tax system we all pay into,and go from there with more taxes?

No taxes on small,medium,and large business, and tax the hell out of large corporations such as GM,Google,Delta Airlines

My forth solution is term limits.

My fifth solution is to put a cap on union wages, so our country can actually compete with other nation's.

(end those 25-30 dollar an hour wages, that people recive to bolt on car doors to cars.)
(I mean come on, my siblings who are surgeons, save lives daily,make less than what union workers make!)

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-18 16:55

Every day, I see the owner class looting too much money.

My first part of the solution is to create an autocatalytic set of machines that can replicate themselves and every machine necessary for a modern standard of living. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsHKrP-66s

My second part of the solution is to use these machines to create an alternative full scale economy of capitalism drop-outs who have full self-sufficiency and begin starving the beast and growing their numbers with their prosperity.

My third Solution is to kill the rich, nationalize the banks, and turn their families out onto the streets to be whores and beggars. Overpasses will make good improvised gallows. Our alternative economy can now become the main economy and we can begin mass investment in energy infrastructure to solve the problems of energy dependence and fresh water shortages for good.

Why not work on seceding from the Union with our alternative economy, and raise our children right with a real education system and real health care so they turn out as intelligent well-adjusted adults?

My forth solution is oceanic colonization to protect and restore our oceans and fisheries and start working on colonizing Luna and building an orbital tether in the Pacific Ocean to give Humanity a worthwhile goal to strive towards, now that the problems of fresh water, food, and energy are at last solved.

My fifth solution is to dispense with all the government services that are no longer necessary, and make it a watchdog state that protects our civil liberties and defends our borders.

(end those unconstitutional agencies like the FBI and CIA, that the state uses to carry out wars on its own people.)
(I mean come on, my siblings who are state thugs, brutalize niggers and protesters daily, are out-classed by feds who have carried out a three decade prohibition war to feed the prison-industrial complex for the benefit of the rich!)

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-18 19:28

Every day, I see the owner class looting too much money.

Define owner class,and define your standard for rich.

-My father,and my brother ran a construction company until the bubble collapsed.

My father immigrated with his from the UK in the 60s/70s,was a farmer for some time. 

The company built 6-7 houses a year,did alot road  work for the state. 

The company hired between 4-7 men at any given time. Each man was payed around 18 dollars an hour,modest benefits,no retirement.

The company had a gross profit of 800-1 million dollars,my father brought in around 40k for my family,and my brother brought in 30k for his. 

My mother worked,and my brother's wife was a self employed stay at home mother.

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-----------Are we rich?-------------------------

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-18 19:54

>>3

AGAINST ME! Are you in the top quintile? If so, I have some bad noose for you.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-19 0:38

A balanced budget amendment would be disastrous. It would essentially make the govt completely powerless in a recession.  Thus making things much much worse.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-20 11:57

Anti-spam bump.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-21 2:31

>>1
My first part of the solution is to have a balanced amendment that states that the government can't spend more than what it takes in.
The first step will never be taken.  Do you know why?  Because Jews control your government.  They will never allow the US Congress to stop borrowing their money.  The more the government borrows, the more profits the Jews make, and the more the Jews have to bribe government officials to exert control.  It's too solid now.  You can't control it by voting.

The only solution is to have less government.  And the only way to get that done is to starve the beast out.  Stop paying your taxes, and stop using government services.  Also start making inroads to stealing government property, ideally leaving unionized government employees with empty buildings with which they cannot do their work.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-21 6:36

>>7
Your paranoia over Jews and anti government zealotry is quite alarming.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-21 19:13

>>7

Less government = More corporate control = More jewish control. You're playing into the xanatos gambit, guy. That's just what the jews want you to do.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-22 1:46

>>9
Your argument falls apart without context. You seem to be stuttering Jew over and over in a world that doesn't care.

So are you a nigger, sand nigger or a stormfag? It's ok bro. We're all evil people here, but Jew thing is like goatse thing in the real intellectual community. It's like being a moralfag posting to child porn sites.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-22 8:54

>>1
Do you know anything about economics? If a goverment couldn't go into defiect, the system wouldn't work. Also Americas main problem is not taxing the rich, and spending billions on a milltary is doesn't need.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-23 14:27

In the black budget
Agreed.

Gold standard
Disagree with policy, agree with intentions. Ideally currency should be backed by all assets, not just gold, and restrictions should be loosened on buying gold and everything else, I realize there are complications to this, in fact I'll just say the entire tax and monetary system needs to be reformed which will need to be done at a methodical pace.

Gut the tax system
Disagree with policy, agree with intentions. The tax system should be based on taxing individuals and businesses what they use from the state with some burden removed from working and middle class individuals.

Term limits
Disagree. Why should people be denied the freedom to elect the same guy for 3 terms if that's what they want?

cap on union wages
Partially agree. Unions that are compatible with the free market should remain unrestricted in accordance with laissez faire capitalist principles, unions receiving special privileges from the state such the ability to charge arbitrary fees or impose restrictions on businesses hiring non-union members should be wage-capped. Ideally all irrational laws governing unions should be dropped.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 9:29

>>12
Term limits
Disagree
Indeed, there's even more reason not to do this:
When there's a limit to how long you can serve, why bother thinking long term[/i]?
Srsly!

"This policy may look good now, but will make the whole country take a cosmic shit-dive in about ten years...
...well after I've been legally barred from running in the first place!
I'll already've had to quit anyway!
YOU CANNOT FIRE ME!  Losers!"


If anything, it allows the psychos to run things in such a way as to start crashing during the next tenure. Just make sure your party loses that particular election.

"See? With $OUR_MAN, all was fine. Hire $THEIR_MAN instead, and everything goes
kablooey[/b]! Now who's the better choice?"

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 9:30

>>13
Damn! Tagfail!

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 9:59

>>13

Term limits don't prevent long term planning.  In fact they make it better because the next guy will be willing to admit if there's a problem and the old plan needs some tweaking.  Proof?  VA does not allow reelection of governors.  As a result we have the best governors in the country and are ranked as the best managed state.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 12:09

>>15
Also, the existence of credit cards doesn't prevent people from spending more money than they physically have in their pockets right then and there. It just gives them less reason to, when that widget in the shop window keeps looking that irresistible.

Or how having a WalMart less than half a mile away, doesn't prevent people from going to the corner shop at the other side of town for the explicit purpose of buying exactly the same things there. There just isn't much of a point.

Like I said, why bother?

VA
You're absolutely sure it's because of and not in spite of?

If the cosmic shitdive comes after you've had to step down anyway, then you cannot be thrown out of office when you've already quit. Just make it look like a good idea at the time, and have it also look like the next guy's fault when the shitdive comes. Tell your crew to lose that election first, then they can use it for the next one.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 14:28

You seem to have a misguided understanding of the system and humans work.

No matter how great a governor or president may be, they can make mistakes. Imposing a limit on terms means that they won't be able to nurture their pet projects, good or bad, for however long they want. At some point there will be an outside perspective that can bring something new to the table and see what's been going on in a way the previously establishment couldn't.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-24 15:03

>>17
People make mistakes, yes.
And removing a potentially strong incentive for getting it right the first time, is therefore a good idea, because...?

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-25 21:59

>>18

have you ever heard of the term "career politicians?"

look at it this way- we're doing it your way right now, and pretty much every fucker in congress is getting their greedy hands on lobby money. every fucking term.

Name: Sparrowhop 2011-07-28 18:57

Hello /newpol/! Nice to meet you.
I just heard on the radio a new president assumed the role in Peru and he sweared oath on the previous contitution and not the latest one on purpose.
I knew the last president was a die-hard communist, stalinist, maoist or castroist die-hard. And on the ceremony he didn't pass the cerimonial ribbon afraid he would be booed.
What are the ideological leanings of the new president? How much an ally and simililar is he to Fujimori and the not-commie previous presidents of Peru? Will his presidency be any like Fujimori or more like President Reagan (runaway corruption or only government ballooning)? Or can I have better hopes?
Anarcho-capitalist, Rothbardian, Hopperian views are not only welcomed, they will be taken as precious gems.

Name: ProposalsSuck 2011-07-28 19:03

Get a life, and play Halo. >:

Name: Murray Rothbard 2011-07-28 19:25

>>1
Jew-hater is almost right. I am jew so my opinion on this (possibly everthing) is better than Anonymous and others.
 life-time hereditary mandates "Democracy: The God that Failed", Hans-Herman Hope

Tax avoidance is as good as humanitary work. Possibly its even better than direct non-commie handing of money to poor people.
(commie humanitary work is actual crime for seeding communism)
Putting caps is lame, unions should be capped out of existance. They are coward crime syndicates, government whores.

>>7
Robbing the government is exactly like robbing Hittler (or jew Stalin if you are anti-semite), you are going to heaven and have things you would exchange 70 virgins for because it would be worth double 70 virgins and you didn't need erection 24/7.

>>13
I agree, my friend Hans-Herman says electoral mandates should be life-time and hereditary to cull corruption and inefficiency.

Name: AnarchistSage !VoonmBZbSs 2011-07-28 19:26

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-30 3:05

Aw Murray you get me the hibidi jibidies on Free Market art
Black and Yellow for evar! gonna buy yellow shirt/black pants so soon its gonna turn clocks backward.
AnarchistSage turn that sound up!

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