My threads on /b/ about 9/11 go 404 really fast. So I decided I'll write here.
What do you think about 9/11 conspiracy?
Before you answer, please go to TPB, search for "Loose Change American Coup", download the documentary and watch it.
First I've seen first version of this film in 2007. Then I've seen 2nd and 3rd edition (American Coup). I think I'm sane. But after the facts (the facts that was even broadcasted on that day, the facts that everybody can search on internet) about conspiracy are much more accurate than those served by news.
Also if you dig into NIST investigation, you'll find that it intentionally omit facts/witnesses (like Barry Jennings who was in WTC7 before it collapsed and was captured by news when he got out from WTC7 on 9/11). This year they released final report on 9/11. They claim they can't explain fall of WTC7 but they also note that they didn't considered bombs (Barry said he heard bombs all the time).
I think I'm one of 1000000 who believe this. What do you think?
Yeah. Sure. All courts should switch to crime-simulators. Eye witnesses are worthless. That's completely stupid. Eye witnesses are those who should write history.
Yet in ground zero there was melted steel (according to firemans, other witnesses and thermal pictures from orbit). The point is they did they investigation wrong and they omitted melted steal even after they've been informed (maybe it's included in latest report, I'm not sure).
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No, firefighters saw melted aluminum. NASA images can only show the temperature at the surface. They can't identify which metals are present just from surface temperature. Also, jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning. http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html
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Anonymous2011-07-08 11:10
When the planes hit my first question was how did they get explosives on the planes? We've been so conditioned to accept that all explosions look like typical Hollywood explosions, whether it's exploding cars, exploding buses or exploding planes, that the public can easily accept jet fuel would explode that way. Also notice how most of the explosion takes place outside the towers.
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I don't own that nor the means, will you pay for a tv, ps3 and copy of modern warfare? If not I cannot comply
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Anonymous2011-07-11 10:01
Metal becomes malleable when heated, I learned this in middle school.
The crashing plane destroyed the fire insulation around the steel, the burning fuel heated it causing it to weaken and buckle under the weight.
Of course there's always a chance it was a huge conspiracy and they put thermite charges in the steel supports, but then why aren't you admitting there is a chance you are wrong also? You're not reasonable, there is no reason why I should jump on the bandwagon.
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Anonymous2011-07-11 10:11
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This guys got the right idea. Remember, you dont havr to heat steel to the melting point for the building to collapse because after a certain temperature the struts would lose half of their strength. Not to mention that an impact on struts holding that much weight would cause cracking which would also damage structural integrity.
Ok. Steel can weaken under fire. Still it doesn't explain why they twin towers fell (only the steel on cca 10 floors were weaken right?). Also there was much bigger skyscraper fires http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html.
It doesn't explain why WTC7 fell. Fires suddenly started here without reason. And then it fell in 2 seconds and it looked exactly like controlled demolition (all parts of buildings broke at same time). Whatever is written in NIST report, I don't care.
What's your proof? Whatever you say the fact is that NASA thermal images show that temperature in ground zero was cca 1300°C and fires there continued for next 5 days.
How do you explain Flight93?
You really believe it's possible to find passport with no damage on the streets of Manhattan after the plane crashed into tower?
See the movie mentioned above. There are more questions to ask.
Your logic and ability to evaluate evidence is flawed. Let me repeat myself. Surface temperatures cannot show what metals were present. There are other obvious flaws in your reasoning that I don't want to waste time pointing out. Sorry. Read the links I provided.
What's your proof?
The burden of proof is on you. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. They are, by nature, damn near impossible to prove wrong. In fact, proving a negative (that something is not true) is almost always more difficult than proving a positive. I can't prove that there is no conspiracy any more than you can prove that 9/11 wasn't caused by leprechauns.
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Anonymous2011-07-17 12:04
What about all this buliding 7 waffle? If you look into it is makes no sense what so ever? What is the fucking motive? I think most people into the 9/11 stuff are nut jobs. This is coming from someone who thinks the American goverment is pure evil too. This is just a distraction from real issues.
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Anonymous2011-07-17 13:00
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LEPRECHAUNS!!
I knew it!!!!
Now to dig up some dubious "evidence".
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Anonymous2011-07-26 3:29
OP is a faggot fucking a dead horse. Only retards still buy into the truther porn.