So what did actualy happen to greece

I just watched this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Dvt2EqXF4&feature=player_embedded

I think it illustrated very well what happened to greece.

Greeks are being portrayed as lazy but official statistics show that greeks on average work more than the rest of the europeans (greece 2120, germany 1430, france 1544, uk 1653, norway 1422, sweden 1625, US 1792. - source: OECD.ORG).

At the moment there are three scandals being investigated in greece considering german companies: siemens, MAN and HDW-Ferostaal, all of which have politians involved that have been bribed.

Personaly I believe that greece has been targeted by the economic hitmen and we are being robbed blind. But further than this, this is regarding the stability of the eurozone and all I can see in the news is that the greeks are being blamed for this.

Anyway, what do you think has happened? Do you agree that we are being set up?

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Just saying we're individuals doesn't mean I want to push it to it's logical conclusion, it's just a fact that needs to be accepted, it means collectives are just another bureaucracy subject to the same corruptive forces as all the others which is something you should not be ignorant about or you will be less effective at managing and disciplining this bureaucracy of yours should it ever exist. If I were vehemently opposed to your ideas I wouldn't be giving you such valuable critical assessment, I have no problem with cooperation for mutual gain, I'm just not going to pretend that there won't be inefficiency or corruption because in engineering and pretty much every profession and science it is know that every action has both positive and negative properties. You can add propoganda value to something by saying "oh, a bunch of hippies smoked pot and tilled soil for a few hours then drove back to their trendy apartmens in north beach come morning, this proves I have found the perfect government", but you're just doing what every other politicians has done for decades, that shit's not going to fly if you intend to really change things.