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Multiculturism hasn't failed

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-11 10:30

RE: multiculturalism has failed in Germany

No, and I find such claims detestable and damaging to not only germanys reputation in the world.

Merkel and her right-wing social-convervative party buddies are framing an issuethat is primarily one of social inequality in education - rich parents, good education, poor parents, not so much - as a "culture" issue. This is quite obviously bullshit, as you can see by looking at your average poor neighbourhood - there'll be just as many kids with german parents as not, all similiarily bad in school.

The reason for this is, as I (And as most students and teachers) see it, our highly selective school system where kids are seperated into three schools based on pretty much one teachers opinion at age 8 to 10. Since that age is far, far too
young to be able to actually tell anyones ability at anything much, this ends up basically selectiong by social status. I've seen this happen live and in colour with a friend of mine getting sent to a more vocational school while I got to
go to the more academic one - with us both having the same grades. On the otherhand, in the school I later went to, there were people whose parents had immigrated, but had managed to make some money - some of them dumb as fuck, some really
smart.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-11 10:31

There's also notoric underfunding of the more vocational schools and of schoolsin "bad" neighbourhoods, and the fact that in some states you now have to pay a lot of money to go to uni, which - as studies have shown - further discourages someone who is poor from going to uni. All in all, our educational system is set up so that the result is that for the most part, people who are poor, stay poor.


Those are all issues students have been protesting about for years. These are all issues Merkel and the CDU have been ignoring or, in some cases, been making worse.

These are very much issues that happen to affect first-gen immigrants kids - being a first-gen immigrant happens to coincide with being poor as fuck a lot, since rich people do not generally emmigrate from their home county to germany to do
 shit jobs for little money - they are, however, not issues of "culture" - and framing them as such only serves to isolate, which is horrible.

All these things coming up close to elections (BW state elections, in polls for which the CDU is doing _very_ badly right now) makes me doubt Merkels honesty here - I simply cannot see this as anything else but a grab for votes from the people who are still afraid of brown people and the kind of persons that are enraged by a mosque with a minarett higher than the local churches church tower. It's a subtle playing of the racism card in a way that makes it hard to call anyone o
ut on it, but that really is what it is.

It's detestable and stupid, and it makes me feel ashamed of living here that it seems to be working.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-11 14:26

Multiculturalism is like monoculturalism in that it implies we must judge an idea by it's origin. It is illogical, for instance in Pakistan I would be executed by the government for citing this historical source just because it suggests Islamic cultures are inferior and primitive. I'm not saying it is inferior and primitive, I'm just letting the facts speak for themselves.

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/062.sbt.html
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 62:
Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Does the idea of murdering me for stating facts have more merit just because the culture it originated in is foreign?

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-11 19:48

Muslims are the only group that kills innocent people with bombs and suicide bombers. Thats why the world hates them.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 5:39

>>4
Strange, I can think of a dozen other groups that do exactly the same (except for the suicide part).

So what you're basically saying is: Muslim = terrorist ?

Yup, very mature thought...

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 6:50

How many races are there in the world? One. And that's the human race.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 7:12

>>5
Who are these groups that do the terrorist thing as prolifically as Muslims? Name them please..

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 7:14

>>6
So birds and Cro-Magnon are humans. I see. You'll go far in biology.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 7:46

>>7
read about the mexican druglords/pirates/guerrillas
terroristic? or survival in desperate circumstances?

Isnt Jihad just a label for a large grey band of various levels of resistance to non-democratic authority?

In the U.S.
I dont approve of whom I elected, and I am forced to compromise my ethical values and virtues to accommodate "regulation and laws" in the name of peace and harmony.

In many Muslim countries.
The elect are appointed or selected by the elite, the "blindly trusted", the royalty, OR the self appointed dictator.
Painted as terrorists, at heart, merely desperate for dignity and personal human value and consequently mislead.

NWO is the emulation of US government:
World Trade Organization=elitist capitalism(republican)
United Nations=Democratic=socialistic communism(democrat)

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 8:03

>>8
-birds are a different species, not a different race
-cro-magnons were the same species as us, homo sapiens

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 8:36

>>9
The WTO doesn't have as much power as you think. Some tiny island nations or shitty African 3rd world countries might be at their mercy but the large important populous nations are barely influenced by them.

The UN is a diplomatic organization and they never agree on anything.

Obviously your view of the world is deluded, stop listening to Alex Jones. I once had the misfortune of seeing and smelling along with hearing this disgustingly obese monstrosity, it's obvious he never bathes because it would involve using tap water, he also seems to be a great fan of organic food considering how much weight he's put on but obviously it doesn't do his health any good. At first I didn't think it was him, I thought maybe the sewage works were unblocking a pipe or something but it was him.. I gagged involuntarily and had to leave.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 8:38

>>10
Don't even try to get into semantics with me. You failed the moment you said there were only one race on this planet. Read a fucking dictionary.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 8:42

>>12
Oh yeah, didn't notice that. I gathered that because all life on earth evolved from the same amoeba 3 billion years ago that technically we are all the same race but I guess that's stretching the definition too far. Everyone makes mistakes but thanks to free speech we can correct one another's mistakes and move forward together to a brighter future.

I admit my mistake and apologize.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 8:42

>>12
-i'm not the one who posted that
-you're the one who went all semantic
-everything you posted in >>8 was factually incorrect
-deal with it

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-12 17:17

>>12
I posted it. My point is, we focus so much on how different we are, that we pretty much forget that we're all pretty much the same. And what's with birds and cro-magnon? That had nothing to do with them and you know it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-15 23:22

Fuck Germany. We went in there and blew their shit up.  Now they're awesome like Canada and England while we're a country plagued by right wing dumbfuckery.  Germany, YOUR WELCOME.  Now send some of your damn socialists over here to save us from ourselves.  Our own Democratic party sure as hell doesn't have the spine to do it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-16 10:31

>>16
typical brainwashed commie.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-16 14:03

>>16
East Germany was an utter failure until they revolted and joined capitalist West Germany.

Name: Anonymous 2011-03-26 19:05

>>4
Moslems are the group that gets the most press coverage when they do this. Doesn't make them the only ones.

>>8
Rhetoric Ninja Wannabe detected.

>>16
It's even worse than that; American politics is "divided" between reps and dems, only in that their main preoccupation is pretending to be different. It's really a one-party system masquerading as a two-party system. That way the "news" media can focus on the "clash" of the titans at the expense of actual alternatives; the "3rd party" is really a bunch of parties kept small (and/or hijacked by the Big Two) to keep them from ever becoming a factor in American politics.

The main problem is to get the word out to the American people. Their own "news" media won't do that; those are owned by the same puppet-masters that...
Damn, now I sound just like Alex Jones! Fuck!
(Ok, so he's right about SOMETHING. Btw, http://www.stopbigmedia.com/)

Reminds me of when I read thru Mein Kampf, looking for what Hitler had to say about ...managing the population. Essentially, he said "Assume the people to be idiots, talk to them like they're idiots". Then I watch some American TV stations, and the way they talk to people...

I think you get the idea.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-02 1:08

>>1
Germany is a German nation. Who the hell do you think you are to come in there and tell them they have to be an "international" nation and not a German nation?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-02 1:09

>>20

Who do I think I am? I think I'm a Jew and I'm damn proud of helping lead the multicultural movement in Europe.

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