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why we are not free

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-17 6:17

The real damage is done by those millions who want to 'survive.' The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don’t like to make waves—or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honour, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small. It’s the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you’ll keep it under control. If you don’t make any noise, the bogeyman won’t find you. But it’s all an illusion, because they die too, those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what? Life is always on the edge of death; narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues, and a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does. I choose my own way to burn.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 13:07

>>39

Fucking A.
You speak my thoughts.

I am so fucking sick of living with this idiot economy.
The good side is it's possible to live very very well with much less than is considered necessary. And with much less stress.
The bad side is: $10 tickets to swim.

>>40

if you intend to be taken seriously at all, you're going to have to avoid insults.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 13:39

>>39

Money is just a financing tool, one of the oldest and most important one in fact, that without which the economy will be thrown back to the prehistorical barter system (aka can I buy your house with 100k jugs of milk).

There's nothing wrong nor inhuman about wanting better things in life. What is wrong is living beyond your current means. It's one thing to find a better job or start your own business to try and fiance your ability to purchase additional goods, it's quite another to blow through credit card after credit card with no plan nor means to ever pay back the debt.

If anything, it's the lack of financial knowledge that's causing the current wave of personal fiance crisis, not some commercials.

As for things been monetized, why should other people work for free for you? Things that are monetized are things that other people have to work to provide for you. The swimming pool is built by workers, didn't just grown out of the earth. Fishing is pretty much free unless you want to rent the sticks. It's a trade, you want others to work to service you, you gotta give them something that pays for their work.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 13:40

>>41
If you want to be succesful you're going to have to accept criticism.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 13:44

>>42
ah, but you are wrong.
Beautiful lakes have been fenced in and turned into "swimming areas" where one is a) not allowed to swim outside the fence, and b) forced to pay for lifeguard "protection", whether or not it is desired, in order to swim at all.

You assume so much with your naive acceptance of all things capitalistic.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 15:52

OMFG! >>40 just vebally fisted >>39's anus...Oh. Ma. Gawd.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 16:39

>>44

And you are naive about what exactly is capitalistic and what is socialistic.

An example like the one you just posted can only happen in a socialistic (or mixed) society where the government can regulate where you can and cannot swim.

In a free-market you can swim where the hell you like as long as it's not in someone else's swimming pool. No private establishment can force you to not swim in wild waters, not by law.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 17:15

>>46

pssst: you are confusing the free-market (an economic system)
with actual liberty.
Ever heard of China?

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 17:20

>>47

Can you sale guns in China?

If not then China is not a free market.

You can have freer market, but to be a true free market is something else.

Name: 48 2011-01-06 17:23

But point is, free market is just a natural occurrence when people have liberty. You can't have the one without the other.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 20:04

Point is, you could have a "free market" system without liberty.
Does this "free market" of which you speak actually exist anywhere in the world?

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 20:34

You can't have a market that's strictly semi free. It's either everything can be traded, or not.

You can have a market that's freer than before, meaning that somethings which were prohibited from be traded is allowed now, but that doesn't automatically mean everything is allowed to be traded (China).

If you don't have political liberty, that means among other things you can't work/trade freely to a certain degree, that automatically means you don't have a free market.

And no, a true free market currently does not exist anywhere in the world, the freest one so far is of course the United States.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-06 22:42

>>51

Hmmm, US economic system.
Yeah, okay. Don't like it.
NEXT!

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 0:37

>>52

Haha, you saying it as if you have a better option currently else where in the world.

US economic system is bad and continues to go downward alright, but still currently the best and freest.

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