Canadian provinces should become U.S. states*

There's no good reason they shouldn't, and a lot of good reasons they should. There's already an EU-like union in North America, except it's 1000x better and it's called the USA and Canada is worthy of joining.

The main thing Canadians don't like about this idea is "But what about Canadian culture??" One, you don't lose your culture when you join the US, just look at Texas, Vermont, California, Hawaii, they all retain their own very distinct culture that date back to before they were states.
 Secondly, you don't really have a culture (Hint: If your culture depends on CANCON regulations on TV and radio to survive, maybe it isn't worth keeping on life support)

Besides the culture thing, Canadians will start to list all the laws they like that are different from the US's, as if they don't know what federalism is. You can keep your drinking age, marijuana laws, gay marriage laws and most everything else you want; those are state issues. You could even keep your healthcare system in place as an interstate compact, though the new Canadian states' influence in Congress would speed up national healthcare reform, anyway.

Any objections?

_{^{*Prince Edward Island shouldn't be a state, it shouldn't even be a province.}}

I do: by large majority, Canadian citizens don't want to join with the United States.  I do not want someone who does not want to become part of the United States to be made part of the United States.  That brings the wrong mindset and perhaps great resentment.

Moreover, it is an unnecessary political move for both countries, unless you wish to expound on your position of "a lot of good reasons they should."

>>2
I agree it would be the wrong thing if the majority of Canadians and Americans were against it. I just don't understand why anyone would be against it.

Benefits

Less restrictions, tariffs and congestion at the border would lead to increased trade and economic stimulus. A single currency would streamline the North American economy. All of the money and resources spent on border patrol could be spent in more useful ways, our combined armed forces would be cooperating and redundant agencies eliminated , meaning enhanced security for the Union. Canadians would have representatives in the world's most powerful and influential government, so they could actually do something about US policy instead of just bitching about it. Finally, just simple freedom of movement. Right now I live an hour from Canada but I can't go there because I don't have a passport, it just seems silly to me. There'd be increased tourism on both sides of the border.

But I still think the main question is "why not," and not "why."

Cons:

Canada is absolutely sodomized for resources due to have far less seats in Congress, and is then tossed to the hogs for the second round of whatever else America wants.

For why the U.S. wouldn't want it, you'd have to deal with Quebec. That you'd even consider considering involving them is beyond me. I assume a fair amount are normal people, but the loud ones are fucking twats. Imagine Mexicans, but not just with the whole, "You used to be immigrants", but also with "We own this land", "Our culture is far too different for you to understand", and a bajillion other things.

Also, Canada is still technically a province of the British, so you'd have to start getting them to hate whatever amount of income the cunts tax us.

Additional con:  Soviet Canuckistan is utterly dependent on the government teat and has solid voting majorities with an utter slave mentality, who would vote the straight Democrat ticket by unthinking reflex.  Toronto is basically San Francisco with snow.

Alberta, Sakatchewan, and the Yukon still have people capable of contributing to society, and who are--by Canuckistani standards--kinda, sorta socially conservative.  And lots of underexploited natural resources, and a net population of, what, one million?

The rest of Canada is basically California with worse weather, and not only is it insane to consider any kind of unification with them, but we should build a fucking wall.

You seem to have mentioned no 'good reasons' for, merely attacked some of the more irrelevant reasons against. Hm.

It would be a perfect example of modern-day American imperialism and would probably end up in North America being entirely Americanised. Canadian men would be sent to America's unjust, racist, capitalist wars. The few major Canadian companies around would become American, further expanding America's domination of the business world. Canadians would lose the patriotism. Canada's governing bodies would become the standard American neo-Conservatism. Undoubtedly the stereotypic fat stupid American businessman would come to the rescue of all those anti-tree and -national resource protestors running around. America is simply too different from Canada, and it would go down a stink with the rest of the world.

Lots of VERY good reasons you neglected to mention.

We don't need a bigger, faggier version of California.

>>1

I think you have it backwards.  The US states should become Canadian, that way we get to have a more sane government run by adults.

>>8
Fuck that. I don't want a Queen.

>>8
As an American.. I wouldn't mind.

I would much rather say I'm canadian (even though I'm in florida). I agree with Canada's health care system and I love their laid back policy of cannibis.. So I wouldn't mind if America became Canada.

>>10
ITT we pay out 60%+ of our pay as taxes and then claim our health care is "free."

trolololololololololololo

nigger

Noope.

>>10
Move to the west coast, same policy on Cannabis as Canada. In 5 years it'll be even more progressive than Canada's.

The world would be a better place if we just annexed all the shitty outlier nations.

>>15
Like the UK.

@post 1, Canada does have a culture. and also i know not many canadians would want to join the us.  they are simmilar in a way, but sorry there is a huge mentalitly difference

>>17
There's a huge difference in culture between Texas and California and New England, The South, the Northwest, Hawaii, Alaska, etc. Its not like you lose your culture when you become part of the US.

But of course, Canada shouldn't be annexed unless they want it. I just don't see why they wouldn't want it.

I think you are trying to follow (or would have to follow) the european example which is about to fail hard. Even the american federation has high chances of failure. I heard (sorry, can't remember where) that some states(i think califirnia - not sure) have deficits similar to greece's. Also, with the chinese owning such a vast amount of dollars and such high exports to the us, i'd stay away from the dollar.

Anyway, I think we're living in very 'liquid' times and changes happen very fast. I'm not convinced that the economic crisis has ended and worldwide the unemployment is reaching record levels. Millions of people are already migrating from war zones (actual and economic war). Northern africa is practicaly revolting against western backed tyrants and russia is practically controlling the world gas supply. Of course a revolution similar to the northern african ones in the united arab emirates would bring the price of oil so high that I realy don't want to think what would then happen.

So. Any country outside the US has massive interest in kindly keeping its distances right now.

>>1
Fucking Patriot. Why would Canada want to be annexed? America is the most evil place on Earth; it would be foolish to join it. Also, I think we all know that Imperialisn is for Soviets.

>>20
Fucking Idiot. Of course America is evil, that's the point. I'm not saying Canada should become a colony, but states with full representation. Do you think the Iraq War Resolution, the Patriot Act, the DMCA, etc would have passed with 70-100 Canadians in the House? Do you think anyone more conservative than Bill Clinton would ever get elected again with 10 more blue states?

>>21
There is no dividing line between good and evil, there are evils and lesser evils. That said, the aggressive attitude needed to annex Canada would result in Canadians being denied their rights or the Canadians would simply vote to become independent in a heartbeat. Putting things in perspective isn't stupid, I'm not going to call you stupid but I will say I have thought things through and the only reason you think I'm wrong is because you haven't.

I don't want anything to do with Canada. Those marijuana-smoking, atheist, faggots. In fact we should be kicking states out of the Union. Send all the faggots to California and build a wall along the borders.

Canada won't join. Quebec doesn't want to, so all the other territories would have to secede from the country. Then Quebec wins. Fuck that.

But it's not as bad as you think. All your engineers left your shitty country for America anyways (lol, Avro).

DON'T DO IT CANADA! THE US WILL EAT YOUR SOUL AND DEPRIVE YOU OF ANY SOCIAL AND FISCAL PROGRESS YOU'VE MADE OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS!