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Gordon Brown on the way down....

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-04 22:35

hey /newpol/ites

I must say that lately I've been rather disappointed in all the lackluster threads on our forum. It seems as though we've lost our focus. It's gotten to the point where /newpol/ is beginning to resemble /b/ in aimlessness. It's high time we got back to actually discussing politics instead of spewing racist bullshit and wasting everyone's time.

It is in this spirit that I propose a new topic for discussion and while I'm not British, I couldn't help finding this to be of interest:

"THE British prime minister, Gordon Brown, is expected to make the short trip from his office in Downing Street to Buckingham Palace, on Tuesday April 6th, to ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament, thus triggering a general election. Once the quaint rituals are over, a month of intensive campaigning will follow. The vote itself will probably be on May 6th. Polls suggest that Britain will see the Conservatives in power for the first time since 1997"
-The Economist
 
Serious discussion appreciated, all opinions welcome, and I suppose any racist bullshit can't be helped

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-05 0:01

The British prime minister ... is expected to make the short trip from his office ... to ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament
You seriously can't be telling me there's a clause or loophole somewhere that lets someone in authority say "alright, everybody go home" and you start from virtual scratch.

And that person is no less than the Queen?  I thought the royalty were absolved of most of their political authority.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-05 2:29

I thought the royalty were absolved of most of their political authority.

Nope this is her only real job, to officially dissolve Parliament for elections.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-05 13:19

People should not underestimate Brown. The only reason the Conservatives are doing well is because Labour are in their 3rd term and becoming increasingly unpopular. There isn't anything inherently appealing about the tories.

Brown may be able to snatch victory or at least cause a hung parliament. He's got his auld friend Tony Blair campaigning for him now.

It's just pro-tory papers (of which there is a lot) that are saying it will be a landslide.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-05 13:20

>>2
Actually the Queen is still the head of state and church.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-06 12:37

>>4
Including the Sun which was a Labor supporter during 1997-2009.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-06 15:25

>>6
Nope they switched to being anti brown late last year

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-06 17:25

>>4
Brown won the PM seat in part due to anti-Blair sentiment so ... okay, what is going on in British politics?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 4:54

Labour will lose because of their nigger-loving sentiments, the truth is nigger-lovers will go to the liberals while people who don't care will go to conservatives, of course they will be accused of being nigger-haters like the BNP, but they're not.

Name: outsider 2010-04-07 17:48

The Tories are likely to win the upcoming election primarily because the British people are tired of Labour running huge deficits in the name of bolstering the economy without any actual results. Unemployment is still high and the British economy has yet to post any positive growth numbers. It seems as though Labour's only selling point has been their recent experience of steering the economy away from depression and Britain's continued need of a Labour government to ensure their ability to retain the current social benefits afforded them by previous Labour administrations.
I think that the Tories do offer the British people the most hope for solid economic recovery. As with all conservative parties they will cut taxes where possible and reduce government spending to more sustainable levels. Less government interference in the market and less burdensome tax loads are the best way to ensure job creation and economic growth, because such measures decrease the cost of doing business. The British people should also keep in mind that such practices will have some effect on social welfare programs for most spending cuts will effect these areas most.
The Tories would do well to cut ties with the more xenophobic elements within the party. These racist fringe elements could divide the party and cut into the legitimacy of the conservatives platform, risking alienating voters in the center. It's important that David Cameron keep party lines tight especially on European issues. It's all good and well to be Eurosceptic, but everything in moderation. European Integration is a hot button issue and has broken stronger Tory governments (think Thatcher). Cameron would be wise to continue dialogue with the Eurozone and should do everything in his power to be an active member within the system so that British interest do not get overlooked. It is possible to do this without relinquishing more British sovereignty than absolutely necessary.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 21:04

>>9
* African American

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 21:35

>>10
A revolving door of 2 parties who only get elected because of the poor behaviour of the prior is for Americans and banana republics (though arguably in nigger republics the dictators get killed rather than lose an election). Though I'm sure this will be pointed out at some point and the conservatives will have to maintain a squeaky clean reputation if they intend to get re-elected.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 22:01

>>12
* African American

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-08 1:46

>>12
Are you really so blind as to not realize that Britain is using the same two-party revolving door as their American counterparts?
The truth of the matter is third parties are usually poorly organized and lacking the clear platforms needed to attract voters and raise money needed to finance successful campaigns. Even the well organized groups in Scotland and Wales will never become anything more than regional strongholds with only enough power to contribute to various governing coalitions in return for promises of devolution.

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