Fuck the Western World+its religion

China and the far east (and India, to an extent [I'm talking about Buddhism]) have it right

Theres a reason why you can't come up with a 'God Almighty' for the Chinese like you can with the Western World.

ITS CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ONE

Know why? Cause its futile. If God is truly almighty and powerful, why the fuck would he be as simple as two legs, two arms, human face and smiling? An almighty being takes an almighty shape, and no, making him a human thats really fucking tall doesn't count.

Instead, their religions concentrate more on the universe and life in general. But why? Most other religions concentrate on one single being and pleasing him, yet the Asians concentrate more on life in general, and not some mythical unicorn. They don't have one single being, and neither are they so closely chained to their damn religion like Christians and lolmuslims are. How the fuck did THEY strike Gold when it came to religion? Superior White Race my ass, I'd rather ponder and think, better myself and learn to live in Harmony with the world than to just worry about some 100 ft faggot trying to catch me jerking off just so he could send me to hell.

>>1
Thank you very much for that insightful POLITICAL post.  Boy, it's sure fitting for a board about POLITICS.

All the negative things about western society come from the secular aspects beginning with the "Age of Reason" in the 1600's and the "Enlightenment" in the early 1800's.

>>3
The enlightenment began with Galileo.

>>1
The kind of thinking that creates a problem will not help resolve it.
>>3
Then shouldn't you be praying or whipping yourself or something?

>>2 What makes you think that religion is anything but a subset of politics?

A man's religion is his own business. Or would have been, were it not for Organised Religion.

Organised Religion has a lot in common with Organised Pharma and Organised Crime.

One way of Organised Crime is to have you living in artificial fear that one of their thugs will ...forget to not break your windows if you don't pay them some protection money every now and then.

Organised Pharma has you living in artificial sickness all the time, since there is more money in treatment than cure. And if you're not sick already, they'll invent something.

Organised Religion will tell you of this thing called "sin", which is a violation of some Divine Law. And lo and behold, who gets to define that law? And who do you have to pay some protection money to, if you don't wanna go to hell?

And what better way to ...liberate the population from this "sin" thing than to get into politics? Form an alliance with the ruling class? Have them form a State Church and stuff?

Failing the State Church thing, there's always those rallies where you can tell people that one certain candidate is the only thing between the people and "eternal damnation" or somesuch.


For this reason, let us by all means bury Buddhism, especially the early versions. After all, it preached "You are your own Saviour. What other Saviour can there be?"

What, self-empowerment? Ooh, the blasphemy of it!

>>7
Better still, as a ruling class, why not make your own religion?

That's what nobleman Lenin did, as a loyal member of the tsarist regime rewarded with the title nobleman and adept at squeezing the peasants who worked on his land he was in an excellent position to take advantage of the crumbling power of the monarch. He used his contacts to gain support from the Germans and created a religion geared for coup which provided an excuse for it's followers to betray their country, terrorise the population and accept help from foreigners in their rise to power. When he succeeded in gaining power this belief system became the state religion and all other religions were banned.

>>7 By Buddhism you certainly mean the sanitized Western version, stripped of golden Siddhartha statues and venerating him as a god. Stripped of a feudal caste system with clergy near the top. Stripped of all that anti-falsifiable shit that actually made it a religion.

Actually, the Japanese and other non-Western people are fascinated with a sanitized version of Christianity of all things. Apparently people will choose foreign-made shit over local-made shit.

One thing I agree with Buddhism though, I am my worst enemy.

>>8 Obvious troll is obvious. Try trolling right-wingers for a change.

Marxism-Leninism was not elevated to the position of a state religion until Stalin took over. Learn your facts.

>>9 oh hi chris-chan

>>10

Western Buddhism is a joke. Aren't people supposed to make some kind of personal sacrifice as a part of their religion? Like they'll abstain from a certain behaviour, give alms, or fast or something? Not in western Buddhism, they support fags, abortions, you name it. Most are very ignorant of Buddhist scriptures and think they know how to meditate. Ask a western Buddhist "Are you Theravada or Mahayana?" and they will look at you stumped.

What do you hate about Western Civilization? That they are greedy, drug using, promiscuous, violent, and ignorant? I'm sorry but that doesn't come from anything Judeo-Christian. That stuff comes from secularism, atheism, and the Devil.

>>12
Mahayana can lick my balls

>>12
That would be like asking a christian whether they're Roman or Orthodox.  And BTW, your concept of sacrifice is a christian notion.  It's clear that you know little about either religion and are just looking for another excuse to vent your frustration and hatred. 

>>13
I don't know what's worse, a troll or the kind of person who would actually believe something like that.

>>12

By "meditate" they surely mean "hyperventillate".

And craving for "justice" or "peace" is the same as craving for sex, drugs or violence. All bad from a Buddhist perspective.

>>13

Marxism is very Judeo-Christian though.

I think we were better off as Western Pagans.  Read the Iliad sometime, or the Aeneid -- It was a sort of self sacrifice.  You were supposed to be virtuous, fight injustice, and take care of your own people.  There was no fake "self-sacrifice", which is how I see a lot of Buddhists (at least Western Buddhists) doing.  It's all like "Hey, look at how holy I am.  I'm a vegan, and I've sheved my head, and I spend hours meditating instead of working!".  That's not much of a sacricife when you get to lord it over the rest of us muggles.

I'll take the Stoics any day.  It wasn't about not achieving or not doing, it was simply not being owned by your shit.  There weren't obvious signs that you were stoic, you just fucking did it.   Nobody had to know that you were a Stoic, you didn't shave your head, or wear a funny orange robe or brag about veganism.  Meditation isn't even a requirement, let alone an excuse to pretend like you're spiritual becuase you meditate instead of doing something productive for mankind.

>>13
You forgot the witches. Let's go burn us some witches, like in the good old days when the Church had real power. That'll learn 'em!
Or those wizards that cut up dead bodies to fin out how the body works, or what killed them. Who needs medical science, right? And as for criminal investigation, let's call in the inquisition! They'll sort that shit out!

>>16
No you little shit it is not "Judeo-christian".
You can't even compare them...
Marxism is a concept, set of beliefs related to economics.
Christianity is a religion, religions are by rule concepts in terms of social and personal philosophy.

>>19 Marxism derived itself from "Utopian Socialism" which was basically dominionism. First "communists" were actual Christians, then Marx did entryism and expelled them.

Also, a lot of people around Marx were secular Jews who despite their secularity were fully committed to Judeo-Christian ethics.

"The Christian... imagines the better future of the human species... in the image of heavenly joy... We, on the other hand, will have this heaven on earth."
(Quote from A Communist Confession of Faith by Moses Hess)

So saying that Marxism isn't Judeo-Christian is like saying holocaust denial isn't Neo-Nazi... Because context matters.

>>20
So if I say "the conditions in concentration camps were due to the chaos of war and their low logistical priority rather than a systematic attempt to exterminate those contained in them" I am immediately a nazi.

>>21
According to the ADL, most likely yes.

>>22 they claim it only for ghettos, not concentration camps, you liberal prick. And to criticize ADL or the state of Israel means being and anti-semite. This has crossed the boundary of hate speech. I can only hope that appropriate authorities will catch on and deprive you of the ability to be such a negative influence toward the society.

>>21
And in Canada or the EU, saying such a thing in public makes you a THOUGHTCRIMINAL, subject to REEDUCATION by MINITRU.

OLDTHINKERS UNBELLYFEEL INGSOC.  This is why it makes me laugh when Eurofags tell me they're more free than I am.  Yeah, they pay 60% of their wages in taxes to fund "free" government-rationed healthcare, they can't own guns, they can't even speculate in public about 20th Century history.  But they're FREE, man.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

>>23
they claim it only for ghettos, not concentration camps

You have something to cite that supports such a statement?

you liberal prick

That's funny. I don't think I've been called liberal before. I find myself to be more of a libertarian than a liberal. Also, you're a jerkface.

And to criticize ADL or the state of Israel means being and[sic] anti-semite.

So criticism of the actions of a nation warrant the person criticizing being called names such as "antisemite"? Even if beforehand they have no racial bias against people of Jewish decent? That right there is defamation of character. A rather ironic thing, considering that the ADL is an anti-defamation institution.

This has crossed the boundary of hate speech.

I never said anything hateful against Jewish people. Tell me, would you accuse me of being a hate monger if I had said something similar about Armenians? Heh, the ADL won't even honestly and officially recognize their genocide that happened just a generation before!

I can only hope that appropriate authorities will catch on and deprive you of the ability to be such a negative influence toward the society.

Oh good lord. Arrest me for practicing my right to free speech? It would be a truly sad day for the First Amendment and individual liberty if that happens.

Christians and Muslims struck gold with their religions because they are designed to control. Eastern Mystic religions aim for the truth. its harder to convince people with truth than it is with deceit unfortunately. -_- err humanity is not too great atm. everything is about money, and you cant capitalize on truth.

>>25 Oh good lord. Arrest me for practicing my right to free speech? It would be a truly sad day for the First Amendment and individual liberty if that happens.

Give Obama and his merry crew of goofball-totalitarians a little more time.  European style "hate speech" laws:  coming soon to a country near YOU, Comrade.

>>27
Yeah no kidding. I agree. Especially with all the unconstitutional crap he's been pulling lately, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. Like I said before, it'll be a sad day when that happens.

>>26
There's some bad things about religion, I'll agree. But there are some good qualities, like the teachings against usury. I'll bet if we had more people in congress that actually heeded that advice, we wouldn't be getting sucked dry by the banks like we are right now.

>>29
 there is indeed. but they capitalized on it, that's why it fucked up. eastern religion still haven't suffered that fate, or at least not to the same extend as the 'big 3'.

>>27
>>26

I love how people compare Obama to Nazi Germany

I understand government is getting bigger, but god damn, no ones gonna take your precious FREEDOMS away. Although I do want to have the ability to say NAZY HITLER in public and not get arrested for it.

If you beat up a faggot and went to jail for it then you deserve it, so don't complain against hate crime laws.

>>25
YHBT

How you took >>23 seriously shows something very unhealthy about American political climate. There are even people claiming that Chomsky is an anti-^Wself-hating Jew because he doesn't support Israel's foreign policy.

>>26
Eastern Mystic religions aim for the truth.
religions aim for the truth.

Cool story, bro.

>>32
Goddammit. I should have figured it was a troll. Ah well...

>>31
Tell it to Comrade Obama, whose party is desperate to create more "hate speech" laws and even has it as a part of their platform.

He just signed a law giving pedophiles special rights and special police protections.  That should tell you all you need to know, if being endorsed by NAMBLA and CPUSA didn't tell you already.

>>34

Has CPUSA stooped so low as to endorse a centrist?

>>34
Obama is secretly a pedophile? Nah, it can't be.

Some people are just fucktarded and won't notice it, ever. If Obama was a leftist he'd repeal the Taft-Hartley act as a first thing to do. National health care program? That's pretty centrist shit. Amerikkka doesn't define the political spectrum by itself. Fucktards.

>>37
If Obama was a leftist he'd repeal the Taft-Hartley act as a first thing to do.

Or he could just ignore it completely and just call it a "goddamn piece of paper". Bush referred to the Constitution as such. Why should anyone expect anything better from Obama?

>>1

That would be because Buddha spent his whole life speaking against organised religion. Now that's how fucking stupid the Chinese are. They just ended up turning his philosophy into organised religion.

>>21

I find it hypocritical when some white pride bigot says the Holocaust never happened and Hitler should've finished the job in the same sentence.