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European Union = Next United States?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-03 12:45

After checking out this Libson treaty, it seems like the EU is going to become one major country. Their form of government seems to be a bit similar to the American government. Probably not that close since our US government is fucking weird, but close enough.

Ireland just passed their support for the treaty. What does Europe becoming on country mean for the rest of the world?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-10 22:52

>>39
>>38 here, if you understand their argument why are you putting across the impression you are dismissing them off hand? I've never understood this bullshit egotistical attitude leftists have, I've often heard them say "we don't want to give them credibility" but this strategy backfires when they start acting like insular extremists themselves afraid of even responding to simple questions and trying to censor everything.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-11 3:25

>>41
I'm not. They're welcome to provide any substantial and creditable evidence supporting their claims.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-11 6:45

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-12 14:59

>>29

So what.

The Euro-races just plain suck and they dont even exist to begin with, so lets obliterate them just in case.

http://balder.org/zed/couen

JEW POWER MASSADA2000 ZOMG

BTW, what three things both Trotsky & Ayn Rand had in common?
I'll post tits if u figure it out.
Don't disappoint me /pol/

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-12 15:29

What do you mean by "Next United States"?  The EU is just another attempt to create a massive trading block whose goal is global economic domination.  The United States, though it's failing, was intended to be something greater.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-12 17:31

>>45
The US was NEVER meant to be anything other than a simple union of states. The founders just envisioned a simple isolationist, agricultural nation. The US was not founded with purpose of trade or economic domination, much less territorial domination.

Those things came afterwards and even still today, Americans don't have any appetite for white elephants. We get rid of foreign territory as soon as possible. Cuba, we threw that shit back. Philippines, nobody wanted that shit gave it back as soon as WW2 ended. Puerto Rico we haven't been able to grant independence because they like the status quo and they never vote for Independence or statehood. In fact, they are absolutely no trouble at all, for us or for themselves.

Continental US is another animal altogether. Colonists were always moving west even before independence. It was only a matter of time.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-12 23:05

>>44
* /newpol/

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-13 11:13

>>44
You do realise that the car you drive, the computer you use, the house you live in all where created by the "sucky euro-races".
I cannot think of any other two words to describe you other than "Worthless faggot".

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-13 11:53

>>44
So they don't exist and they suck? How can something who doesn't exist suck? Something "sucking" implies it being something negative, if something does not exist you cannot apply any adjectives to it because it's impossible to know whether it's positive or negative/beautiful or ugly etc because it doesn't exist.

Basic logic is probably way above your head. But i am guessing you mean by "races(the european one) don't exist" that old marxist dogmatic theory that race and culture is a social construct, it may be that culture is a social construct. Nobody who has ever been taken seriously can deny that there are differences between people in different areas of the world. What however is interesting is how you explain these differences, Marxism/Liberals (in the modern sense) and other anti-intellectual movements try to explain it by that fact that the culture in different areas is different and that therefore people are different. The culture creates people is the agenda, these people have however never answered the question; "If culture creates men, what then created culture?". At least not satisfyingly, Christian leftists argue that SATAN created different cultures to divide mankind and to distract them from their true goal of love for christ the saviour, marxists argue that different cultures where created by CAPITALISTS in order to maximise their profits.
Both of these explanations leave a lot to be desired in terms of logic.

I don't think i even have to explain the christian answer's logical fallacies, but the marxist answer is disapproved in the fact that different cultures existed even before anything even resembling capitalism existed.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-14 9:50

>>42
By proving that their opponents don't even have knowledge of middle school level biology?

Seriously, I learnt about recessive genes in middle school.

Middle school.

I was 12.

If you think asking to be taught something you should have learned when you were 12 is a compelling argument you would do the anti-racist movement a favor by shutting the fuck up.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-14 11:01

>>50
There are no intelligent "anti-racists", as i said before; anti-racism is an anti-intellectual movement.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-14 13:21

>>50
Who cares that you learned in middle school? Fine, good, you learned it then; give yourself a nice pat on the back for me! I said that I was willing to look more into it. I thank >>43 for providing the link and I'll take it from there.

>>51
I never explicitly said that I was anti-racist. In fact, I feel as though the current anti-racist trend is ironically racist in and of itself. Whites are experiencing "reverse racism" by groups that are given things like entitlements and special privileges. Both things actually cause more problems than they solve, and it is in reality detrimental to freedom and individual liberty. It, in effect, is disastrous to both parties.

The only way that racism will ever be completely eradicated is if people stop thinking in groups collectively; and said groups are no longer treated special. I have some hope, but I don't think that something like this will happen anytime soon.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-14 13:33

>>52
I learned about it in middle school to, i am guessing you are a nigger and was out smoking crack when you should have been learning in school.

The problem with ACTUAL equality is that niggers and spics come out on the bottom of it, because they simply aren't equal in terms of intelligence.
We have had actual equality, the only problem with it was that as i just said niggers still did not want and could not get and keep jobs. After this the civil rights shitheads started making absurd claims that Jamal who just finished the evenings second whisky bottle and had 10 kids from different mothers who he never raised actually was being discriminated against and therefore could not get a job. The same moronic shit we see today. Civil rights was a failure, niggers are not equals. Even Abraham Lincon agrees with me.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-14 13:51

>>53
I learned about it in middle school to[sic], i am guessing you are a nigger and was out smoking crack when you should have been learning in school.

No, I am White. So your guess is wrong.

The problem with ACTUAL equality is that niggers and spics come out on the bottom of it, because they simply aren't equal in terms of intelligence.

I can't say about that. I have met some Hispanic and African descended people that excelled in mathematics, science, English, ect. This is anecdotal, though, so I really can't say.

We have had actual equality, the only problem with it was that as i just said niggers still did not want and could not get and keep jobs.

I think that welfare blows this problem much out of proportion than it should be. And it promotes failure as something good, regardless of race. I find that to not only be terrible, but also a catalyst in fueling even more racism. I support the small government idea that welfare should be eliminated.

After this the civil rights shitheads started making absurd claims that Jamal who just finished the evenings second whisky bottle and had 10 kids from different mothers who he never raised actually was being discriminated against and therefore could not get a job.

Like I said, welfare promotes this behavior. It just makes people have kid after kid after kid just to collect a check from the government. It's immoral, it's unconstitutional, and it's detrimental to freedom and individual liberty for everybody regardless of their race.

The same moronic shit we see today. Civil rights was a failure, niggers are not equals. Even Abraham Lincon agrees with me.

I don't know about that.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-15 7:36

lol racism

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-15 7:52


"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."
- Abraham Lincon.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-15 14:08

>>39

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

Not anyone else in the thread, but you are an uneducated imbecile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5#CCR5-.CE.9432

CCR5-Δ32 (or CCR5-D32 or CCR5 delta 32) is a genetic variant of CCR5.[6][7]

CCR5-Δ32 is a deletion mutation of a gene that has a specific impact on the function of T cells. CCR5-Δ32 is widely dispersed throughout Northern Europe and in those of Northern European descent. It has been hypothesized that this allele was favored by natural selection during the Black Death. This coalescence date is contradicted by purported evidence of CCR5-Δ32 in Bronze Age samples, at levels comparable to the modern European population.[8] Research from The University of California at Berkeley published in 2003 indicates that smallpox may be another candidate for the high level of the mutation in the European population.[6]

The allele has a negative effect upon T cell function, but appears to protect against smallpox and HIV. Yersinia pestis was demonstrated in the laboratory to not associate with CCR5. Individuals with the Δ32 allele of CCR5 are healthy, suggesting that CCR5 is largely dispensable. However, CCR5 apparently plays a role in mediating resistance to West Nile virus infection in humans, as CCR5-Δ32 individuals have shown to be disproportionately at higher risk of West Nile virus in studies,[9] indicating that not all of the functions of CCR5 may be compensated by other receptors.

While CCR5 has multiple variants in its coding region, the deletion of a 32-bp segment results in a nonfunctional receptor, thus preventing HIV R5 entry; two copies of this allele provide strong protection against HIV infection.[10] This allele is found in 5-14% of Europeans but is rare in Africans and Asians.[11] Multiple studies of HIV-infected persons have shown that presence of one copy of this allele delays progression to the condition of AIDS by about 2 years. CCR5-Δ32 decreases the number of CCR5 proteins on the outside of the CD4 cell, which can have a large effect on the HIV disease progression rates. It is possible that a person with the CCR5-Δ32 receptor allele will not be infected with HIV R5 strains. Several commercial testing companies offer tests for CCR5-Δ32.

In 2008, German doctors announced that an HIV-infected leukemia patient had received a bone marrow transplant from a donor who is homozygous for the CCR5-Δ32 trait. After 600 days, the patient was healthy and had undetectable levels of HIV in the blood and in examined brain and rectal tissues.[12][13] Before the transplant, low levels of HIV X4, which does not use the CCR5 receptor, were also detected. Following the transplant, however, this type of HIV was not detected either, further baffling doctors.[14]

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-15 19:54

>>52

Whites are experiencing "reverse racism"
That's liek saying:
The Bourgeoise is experiencing "reverse exploitation"

Learn2 Cultural Marx-ism

MORAN

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-15 20:02

>>58

reverse exploitation
AKA - The Dictatorship Of The Proletariat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat

Don't panic; it's supposed to be temporary.
Or so they say...

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-15 20:07

>>58

Bourgeoise

Sorry. I meant BOURGEOISIE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie
Excuse my french.

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