Freedom to say nigger and faggot

We should have the freedom to say NIGGER and FAGGOT and the freedom to hate and even "incite" hate. People can discern and judge for themselves how to react, don't censor opposing viewpoints.

^* African American and Male Homosexual

* Caucasianally Challenged and Cigarette

Nigga, please.

I say those words whenever I want, and I'm white. Since when don't we have the freedom to say those words? You're just scared that a nigger will pop out and harm you. So you want to be protected while saying it. Like the smaller guy who has to stand behind his bigger friend to talk shit to others. So stop being a bitch and just say it. It's not illegal to say those words. So it is your own pussyness that allows you to not say it. Fuck off coward.

I could care less about some crazy violent armed Negro. I just don't want to be sued for "hate crime" laws because I believe in "separate but equal".

You can say it, nigger, faggot, holocaust didn't happen.

^* African American, Male Homosexual, Holocaust happened, but that harp gets played upon too much at times.

>>6
"separate but equal"!?  Sounds perfect for a flat earth that was created in seven days.
Get with it, would ya?  2009, Mr. Potato Head.  2009.

I agree with the OP, though I find his examples disappointing. The standard for free speech is an important question.  I like the oft quoted "You can't falsely yell fire in a crowded theater" thing(see Schenck v. United States 249US47), but I have a different take.  I believe the "clear and present danger" must be personal and proximate. Political speech never presents an immediate personal and proximate threat.  Hate speech can.  One man calling another a fag nigger is pathetic, but shouldn't be illegal.  Though there is certainly a threat implied none is spoken.  Implied is not "clear".  Now, what if a threat of violence is spoken?  I'll say maybe. If some sad "man" is getting his jollies by scaring the shit out of these people and making them suffer, then I damn sure think he's morally guilty.  I wouldn't want to legislate it though.  So I'll say this.  If I catch ya, I'll hold you down and let the bitch scratch your face up a little. And to the "Homosexual African American" community I say; Buck up, fellas!  It's our physically defending these fundamental rights that have made room for you guys lately.  You've got you're own network, that Bravo channel, right?  See?  It'll be fine.

actually in some european countries saying nigger and faggot is illegal.. and you get to pay a shitfat-of-a bill if there is a witness.. that sucks..

Fuck your free speech. Millions of people do not want to have to walk around enduring racial slurs from idiots like you that want to set the progress of society back to the Stone Ages. What's so important about your "right" to walk up to people and call them dumb ape niggers? There's nothing wrong about dissenting or unpopular opinions but when you start to cause emotional harm to people, you're pushing it.

>>11
I don't want to endure seeing fags make out on the streets and ignorant people play loud rap music that glorifies gangs, drugs, writing on other people's property, and degrading women.

^* African American

We shouldn't have to discuss this type of thing in this day and age!

>>11
I'm very offended.  You said my white brother is setting progress back to the Stone Ages.  That's hate speech, and you don't deserve a "right" to type up mean words to people on the internet.  You're causing emotional harm to people, and you're pushing it.

I'd be ok with faggots if they stopped having anal sex in public and spilling shit, blood and semen over the pavement and onto people's faces. What really bothers me is they do it because communists tell them to, in order to "empower" themselves, whatever that means.

I will never accept negroes anywhere except on plantations, out of sight of everyone except those paid to keep them in line.

niggers aren't all black anymore.
faggots aren't all gay anymore.

a nigger is a social leech and an offense to civilization; a faggot is an obnoxious, pushy, bitching moron.  in an age of anonymous conversation, these things have nothing to do with race or sexual identity anymore.

therefore, these terms are no longer offensive.

>>17
I guess that makes you a nigger faggot.

>>16 That's an anti-communist lie. Homosexuality has been illegal or looked down upon in every "communist state" that's ever existed.

>>17
still, the majority of faggots are gay males and the majority of niggers are afro-negro-blacks. Can we agree on that?

>>19
I mean faggy American communists, the ones who will tell you the awesome totalitarian regime of Soviet Russia is not "real communism".

What does supporting state ownership of most industries have to do with supporting faggots' right to spread AIDS in public? Anyway law, medicine, and religion used to be steadfast in their opposition to homosexuality. What happened?

>>22
Faggy american communists only support our enemies to get attention and pretend they are worth something, even though they are weak effeminate pussies compared to actual marxist guerillas and communist commissars.

>>20
I'd argue that most faggots are "bi" males that wear women's jeans and small tight shirts and call themselves "hipsters" or "emo"

Sure is intolerant and or antisocial loser in here.

>>26
Chill the fuck out.

Six college students founded the Ku Klux Klan between December 1865 and the summer of 1866 in the town of Pulaski, Tennessee. Former Confederate officers, the six young men organized as a social club or fraternity and spent their time in horseplay of various types, including wearing disguises and galloping about town after dark. They were surprised to learn that their nightly appearances were causing fear, particularly among former slaves in the area. They quickly took advantage of this effect and the group began a rapid expansion. Various factions formed in different towns, which led to a meeting in April 1867 to codify rules and organizational structure.

At this meeting, former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was elected Grand Wizard, or supreme leader, of all the Klan. The organization was divided into a number of realms, dominions, provinces and dens, which were in turn led by Grand Dragons, Titans, Giants and Cyclopes.

The policies of Reconstruction -- aiming to extend the rights of Southern blacks -- had the unintended effect of pushing hundreds of resentful and anxious veterans into the Klan, which soon began instituting a systematic policy of violence in opposition to the new social order. Former slaves were the obvious target of this terrorism, but the Klan also harassed, intimidated and even killed Northern teachers, judges, politicians, "scalawags" and "carpetbaggers" of all ilk. By late 1867, the movement had spread throughout the small towns of the South, though it did not take hold in urban areas, perhaps because at that time the cities were not suffering the economic hardships of rural regions. Klansmen began waging guerilla warfare against what they perceived as a corrupt system depriving them of rights. This feeling of grievance, which began during the time of the first Klan, would characterize Klan sensibility and ideology throughout the 20th century.

By 1869, internal strife led Klansmen to fight against Klansmen as competing factions struggled for control. The Klan's increasing reputation for violence led the more prominent citizens to drop out and criminals and the dispossessed began to fill the ranks. Local chapters proved difficult, if not impossible, to monitor and direct. In disgust, Forrest officially disbanded the organization and the vast majority of local groups followed his lead. Some number of local units continued to operate but were eventually disbanded or sent into hiding by federal troops.

In 1915, William J. Simmons, a lifelong joiner of clubs, was inspired to reorganize the Ku Klux Klan after seeing the movie "Birth Of A Nation," D.W. Griffith's spectacular account of Reconstruction, told from the perspective of the Klan and adopting the group's mythic vision of a noble and pristine antebellum South (the movie's loathing of blacks is extraordinary to a modern eye and was highly controversial even at the time; President Woodrow Wilson captured the sensation of the film's release -- even as he validated its message -- when he famously declared that the movie was "like writing history with lightning."). Dissatisfied with the many fraternal organizations of which he was a member (or by his lack of control over those groups), Simmons sought to establish his own organization dedicated to "comprehensive Americanism." When "Birth of a Nation" opened in Atlanta, he ran an advertisement for the Klan next to the movie's ad in the Atlanta newspaper.

The timing was perfect. The United States was struggling to meet the challenges imposed by a massive influx of immigrants, many of whom were Catholic or Jewish and few of whom spoke English. Appealing to the middle class and claiming to be a "purely benevolent" club, the Klan drew members immediately. When the United States finally entered World War I, the group capitalized on the conflict by promising to defend the home front against "alien enemies, slackers, idlers, strike leaders and immoral women," as well as African Americans, Catholics and Jews.

Simmons hired publicists Edward Young Clarke and Elizabeth Tyler to help advertise and recruit in 1920, and in the ardently xenophobic atmosphere of post-World War I America Klan membership soared. Becoming more strident, the group now articulated opposition to "Ni--ers, Catholics, Jews...dope, bootlegging, graft, night clubs and road houses, violation of the Sabbath, unfair business dealings, sex and scandalous behavior." By 1921, the Klan numbered almost 100,000 members and money flooded its coffers. At its peak in 1924, 40,000 uniformed Klansmen paraded through the streets of Washington, D.C., during the Democratic National Convention. Like a modern political lobby, the group was so influential that many politicians felt compelled to court it or even to join, particularly in the Midwestern states. Senators, congressmen, governors, judges at all levels, even future President Harry Truman donned the hood and robe (though Truman shortly quit, apparently disgusted by an anti-Catholic tirade).

As the Klan grew, so did the number and intensity of violent acts committed by its members. The group's image suffered; the hypocrisy of a self-proclaimed "law and order" organization that utilized lynchings and vigilantism did not escape public censure. Additionally, the central leadership proved incapable of effectively controlling the organization's fringes, largely due to their own infighting and competition over the enormous revenue the organization was generating. Scandal followed scandal and the rank-and-file became alienated by the sexual and alcoholic exploits of its leaders. By the outbreak of the Great Depression in 1929, the Klan had fragmented into dozens of independent realms and membership plummeted.

Prewar alliances with organizations like the German Bund led to desertions from the ranks and the post-World War II era of unprecedented prosperity further dissipated interest in and support for the Klan. The last of the universally recognized Imperial Wizards, Dr. Samuel Green, died in 1949.

Several leaders throughout the 1950s and 1960s attempted to reunify the movement, but none were successful. Most Klaverns (local units) remained stubbornly independent, although the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s encouraged some unification into independent realms of varying sizes. Outrage over the rising fortunes of African Americans and the perceived inaction or even cooperation of whites led to an increase in membership. At the same time, American society seemed consciously to turn against the Klan during this period as never before. This shift was most clearly reflected in the new commitment by the F.B.I. and other law enforcement agencies, both local and federal, to monitor, infiltrate and disrupt the Klaverns.

Fragmentation, decentralization and decline characterized the Klan during this time period, though there was a brief Klan revival in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Many of the Klaverns remained at least nominally independent, although a few were attached to national organizations. These national Klans, which were a pale shadow of the organization's former self, included the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the Knights of the White Kamelia and the Imperial Klans of America. Taking a cue from David Duke, former Imperial Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1970s, many attempted to "mainstream" their image by using euphemisms instead of racial epithets, talking of pride in their "heritage" rather than hatred of other groups and participating in state-run good-citizenship initiatives, like "adopt a highway" cleanup programs. At the same time, other Klan groups adopted camouflage uniforms and paramilitary activities.

Many Klan groups also adopted Christian Identity beliefs. They feared the "New World Order," believed Jews and liberals were attempting to outlaw their religious practices, and considered gays and other "deviants" to be forcing their lifestyles into the mainstream. Although many Klansmen received food stamps and other forms of government assistance, they continually raged at African Americans who received "welfare" and accused them of "sucking the blood out of hard-working real Americans."

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Klan groups increasingly aimed their racist invective at immigrants, particularly Hispanics, who were settling in a number of American cities for the first time in the history of those cities. The anti-immigration theme once again became a major issue used by the Klan to both recruit new members and attract publicity.

I find it funny that the KKK started as an idea at a late night drunken frat party.

Remember when it was normal to be a Klansman? Now there's social stigma.

Get that niggerfaggot out of here.

>>35
^* Male African American Homosexual

ya'll are punks, with narrow minds that keeps society the way it is. why the fuc.k are you so worried about what other people do. i hear just as many ppl bumping country and other shat i dont listen to, but i dont really give a shat because they are not trying to push country music on me. when you openly say words to demean another person because of race or sexual orientation, it just shows how STUPID you really are. most people that think like this dont go very far in life, so have fun in your trailer or at your next klam meeting or date with your cousin. i love going to bars, i dont drink, i just hang with friends till some fool like you says something dumb, i tell them that shat isnt tolerated and if anything degrading said again there is gonna be problems. 2/5 times a fight ensues and some poor fool and his friends get their azz beat. i have broken a few jaws in this manner and would not hesitate a min if anyone of you came stepping. by the way why are all you lames posting as anonymous, shows how down for the "cause" you are. so as i leave to go roll a blunt of jack the ripper, ill leave you with this. dont worry about what other ppl do. this country is big enough for all of us. if you really want and are down for the cause, save your government check a few years, buy some land in the middle of nowhere, and (die alone, j/k) have your lame meeting or commune where you can dicuss "the problem" and what to do about it. i guaruntee you will never have enough ppl to make a difference. I GUARUNTEE it. prove me wrong!

if whites are so superior and better than everbody else why arent we "on top" of the world?????? because it not true, duh. there are so many different white power groups out there, you would figure at least 1 of them "got it right", why dont you guys offer to send other peoples back to their "homeland"? there are dumb people and smart people in every culture and race, it all depends on how you use your mind. open your mind a bit and maybe you can figure some of these things out

>>38

The media makes whites feel guilty and ashamed of being white and at the same time forces nigger music upon us and forces us to have certain numbers of minorities in every classroom and workplace.

>>39
^* African Americans

I agree with everything else you've said.