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China: An emerging super power?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 9:14

I keep hearing that China is going to become so very powerful and soon.

I honestly don't think China will be a super power soon, they have too many internal problems (rift between rich and poor, corruption, enviornment, various social issues, etc...)

Is it just people talking about things they don't really know anything about or is there some truth to this?  Thoughts?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-19 7:01

China has been working for Yankee-Dollars during the last 20 years. They hold the biggest single amount of dollars ever seen. If they happen to go shopping with their dollars, they could buy the complete USA industry twice, except the Military-Industrial-Complex of course. The dollar wouldn't even be worth the paper it's printed on then. That's why we hear voices calling for a new world currency lately.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-19 14:02

>>38
By my reasoning eh?  This is /newpol/ not /newanthropol/.  I was addressing the United States of America, not the American Continents, and you know it.  If you want to play like that I could counter with the idea that casting a vote is a physical means to a political end.  Come on... if you have something intelligent to contribute, you are welcome.  Otherwise I suggest you go back and read this thread as carefully as you are able.  You might learn something, despite your contrary nature. 

>>41
I'd like to hear more.  I know little about global economics, and the idea of a "new world currency" sounds awful to me.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-19 15:47

>>42
America consists of people and those people had a culture before they formed the American government. This should have been obvious.

Casting a vote is a political means since voting is permitted, the chinese government doesn't want people tearing down their property. This should have been obvious.

You are fillibustering because you know you are wrong or can't admit it. This is obvious. Would you rather I be a tool, don't think for myself, don't criticise and just agree with everything you say like >>41 ?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-19 16:11

>>43
The culture of the United States of America began with the ratification of its constitution.
You need to read up on civil disobedience.  The term ‘civil disobedience’ was coined by Henry David Thoreau in 1848. Here's a nice link.    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/civil-disobedience/
>>41 was an independent assertion that neither agreed, or disagreed with anything I said.
I don't mind trolls.  As I have said here before, they only serve to facilitate discussion.  The only thing in this thread that's "obvious" is that you have been outclassed.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-20 6:47

>>40

Right.. but they weren't all from the area that is now China.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-20 6:50

>>44
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but you don't think previous culture has any effect?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-20 10:35

>>44
So your argument is essentially that Americans don't commit civil disobedience because their culture is inferior and you have succesfully disproven and outclassed me and I'm the troll?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-20 17:17

>>46

See above

No, immigrants come to America and a process begins wherein over a few generations some of their cultural traits are added to the whole, and the rest are supplanted by the existing culture that is founded in the law.

Prior to the establishment of the USA there were already significant populations of English, Germans, Swedes, Dutch, French, Spaniards(primarily in the south and west of what would become the contemporary USA), and African Slaves in the mix.  The framers of the constitution were fully aware of the fact that they were creating a "Nation of Laws" for an already culturally and religiously divers population.  Of course culture has an effect.  That we speak English is an example of the profound influence the cultures some of the earliest settlers/immigrants had, but ultimately, and as it was intended, the law is the one and only thing that binds us together into a single entity.  It is the focal point, and when everybody's looking at the same thing, they eventually begin to see the same thing. 
This is a fundamental principle of constitutional law that many people fail to grasp.  You hear people claiming that the USA is a christian nation, or a white nation, while the writings of many of the framers specifically contradict these notions, as do the actions of the govt. over the last 230 years.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-21 0:21

>>48
Is this 1923? Who the fuck is claiming America is a white christian nation except a bunch of hicks no one cares about?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-21 0:25

>>48
You blow culture way out of proportion, cuisine and music isn't going to influence whether I commit civil disobedience or not, things like whether I can change the system by lobbying and voting and the likelyhood of the government killing or imprisoning me do.

What are you over-compensating for that drives you to warp reality to fit around something as irrelevant and narrow as culture?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 10:50

by 2020 china will surpass the economic power of the United States and European Union

by 2030 china will surpass both....combined

Even with internal strife and all the social problems often cited, it is inevitable. With over a billion people the population of china only needs to reach a modest living standard to dwarf the US and European economies. On a individual basis, the US and EU will be far better off for many many years, but as an economic power china will easily surpass us. The good news is the US will probably end up being chinas strongest ally as both economies are interwoven and dependant on eachother.

The US was the worlds first hyper-power, china will be the second.

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