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America and the Uphill battle

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-30 12:59

  Sometimes I think that the reason America is changing is because of China.  All the terrible things that Americans increasingly observe their government doing are just things that China has always done.  One fact is sure, the American empire is in decline and a vacuum has appeared which seeks to be filled by some other superpower, namely China.  This means that there is now a conflict between the people on the way out and the those on the way in.
   Why is it that Americans have been so silent about the gentle foreign policy between America and China.  If you want to see your country stand, in the future, for what it stood for in the past, demand that your government condemn China.  Demand reforms in China.  That would seriously address the problems in America at the root.
   One other thing to keep in mind is that, while America will have decreasing authority over China, internally, American corporations will increasingly side with and collude with China because that is where all the growth is (supposedly).  This means that the citizens of the United States are in a battle, not only with a maturing fascist state, but with their own corporations.
    You have a serious uphill battle.  Perhaps disintegration of the Union is inevitable, but something tells me that the values for which it stands mean a lot to those who live there.  So much so, that they may be willing to fight for them.
    One other thing to ponder is this.  Is the American government becoming more like China (insofar as it is increasingly infringing on human rights), because it wants to compete in this dog eat dog modern world?  Perhaps it is making this change because of a kind of silent colonization.  The citizens of America are accepting these changes and so goes the government to be more and more like that in China.  Those Americans crippled by debt are now, essentially, just like the 900 million peasant-slaves in China.
   Could one country really hijack the government of another?  Possibly, if the key players in the government are actually the CEOs of corporations which have no allegiance to the country at all and simply seek to maximize growth.  To me it seems just as reasonable that the Bush administration could be seen as making "difficult decisions to protect Americans" as they could be seen as transforming the country into a compliant province of the next super power, namely China.

  peace

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 6:43

>>6
Cool strawman bro. I never said China is a market for American goods, I said it is a market for American services like investments and franchises. American companies are setting up shop in China, I never said they were exporting goods to China, they buy chinese shit and sell it to chinese at a higher price and use the money to import luxuries from China. They sell services to china and buy goods. What's so difficult to understand about that?
>>7
Well here I agree. Frankly I'd prefer it if walmart ran the country, they might not have the right systems and organisation, yet, but at least they are realists.
>>8
You're not one of these ignorant idealist leftists who don't understand the service economy are you? You'll be hard pressed to find a Chinese company in the US, but you will find many Korean and Japanese companies in the US because they are predominately service economies. None of these companies need to manufacture anything in their own countries, they can use chinese cheap labor and still make a profit, they make their money by possessing better technology and being better organised than their competitors.

Also I find it funny that you didn't mention the fact that China spends a higher proporition of it's GDP on R&D than any other country in the world then mentioned India and Ireland as some kind of technological mecca, you've been sucking China's cock through the entire thread, this pretty much shows how poorly informed you are.

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