They take away our gun ... liberal...they take away our guns...liberal. Damn something isn't working here. Almost like taking our guns is a basic liberty and liberals believe in these, but they are going to take them away?
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Anonymous2009-04-20 19:37
-they freed the slaves
-they stopped child labour
-they gave women/niggers the right to vote
-women's emancipation
-they invented pensions
-they take guns away
-anti-war
-foreign aid
-unions
-criminalization of spousal rape
-positive discrimination
Liberals = free thinkers intellectual human beings.
Conservatives = religion blinded idiots who can't ge the Brain power to open their eyes.
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Anonymous2009-04-24 9:25
Liberals often abuse their own high ideals, they're fake 90% of the time.
A liberal here has already tried to lump the dubious policy of "positive discrimination" with the noble causes of universal suffrage, ending slavery and so forth. >>18 uses the label "free thinking" to aggrandise his side of partisan politics which is totally illogical for obvious reasons but also in line with the liberal custom of trying to appear rational and morally righteous rather than actually being rational and ethical.
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Anonymous2009-04-25 15:19
Under a conservative government, liberals can still usually act in a liberal fashion. They can give half their money to public services and charity, they can treat gays and women like equals all they want, they can even free all their slaves.
Under a liberal government, conservatives aren't allowed to keep all their money to do with as they please, they can't treat gays and women like inferior people, and they're not even allowed to keep slaves.
I'm not ragging on all liberals here -- I've met a few who aren't hypocritical morons. But when liberals feel their ideals have to be taken and forced upon people who don't believe in them, that's where I draw the line.
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Anonymous2009-04-26 10:56
>>20
We should have enslaved Obama while Bush was still in power.
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Anonymous2009-04-26 20:22
>>21
You did. And everyone else, for that matter. Let's just see how long it goes on.
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Anonymous2009-04-28 11:37
Liberals are usually right in principle but need a reality check on a lot of things. Positive discrimination is often a good example of that. A black woman has a lot of liberal political capital above some white guy even if the white guy has accomplished a lot more or is better qualified. In Europe that was quite out of control, but it seems they're finally getting some sense, slowly and at long last.
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Anonymous2009-04-28 13:45
>>23
Of course positive discrimination is wrong, no need to yammer on about it. You sound like a butthurt racist.
People hate liberals because unlike conservative positions (DURR-HURR JESUS DURR-HURR LESS TAXES!), liberal positions actually require long-term thinking, which conservatives don't care about because all they want is a quick fuck and to be the master race.
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Anonymous2009-04-29 8:26
>>25
There are many liberal positions that are short sighted and naive, for instance during the 30s many liberals believed we should tolerate socialist regimes such as the national socialist worker's party of Germany and did their best to appease them by letting them annex other sovereign nation's territory and keeping the US out of the war as long as possible.
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Anonymous2009-04-30 23:14
So it's still better to be a liberal than a conservative?
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Anonymous2009-05-01 0:22
Hmmmmm...
Well...
Conservative: Do nothing, do less, everything is fine the way it is, or we should go backward.
Liberal: Do everything, do more, do something even if it's wrong, at least it's an attempt to move forward.
You tell me which is better.
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Anonymous2009-05-01 0:58
Liberals complain so much about how Fox News Channel is so conservative as if that's a problem. "All the other networks love Obama, so FNC must be evil." Fair and balanced doesn't mean they love liberal positions as much as conservative; it means the other networks need to be balanced out.
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Anonymous2009-05-01 1:32
For all that Liberals are supposed to be forward-thinking and pro-change and all that crap, they've been spouting pretty much the same pseudo-socialist rhetoric for as long as I've known them. If they're so liberal, why don't they mix things up and promote a fundamentalist Zoroastrian theocracy or something? I mean, all that 'democracy' and 'equal rights' stuff has been around for ages, we need something new.
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Anonymous2009-05-03 21:23
>>30
>I mean, all that 'democracy' and 'equal rights' stuff has been around for ages, we need something new.
Apparently not, because there is still racism and sexism in the world.
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Anonymous2009-05-05 6:22
>>31
Simply disagreeing racism and sexism isn't enough, if the only solutions you can come up with are diversity drives and getting butthurt over "merry christmas" then it's obvious lending my support would be a waste of resources that could be better spent elsewhere.
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Anonymous2009-05-05 22:51
>>31 Apparently not, because there is still racism and sexism in the world.
Of course there is. Whether it's religion, country of birth, race, sexuality, or just which sports team you cheer for, there's always going to be people who will use such arbitrary criteria to prove their superiority over others. It's part of human nature, and acting as if tens of thousands of years of evolved behaviour can be overcome by happy thoughts and marshmallows is just fantasy.
The fact that discrimination exists isn't the problem -- the problem is how to deal with it. And I've not met any liberals with convincing arguments that they know how.
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Anonymous2009-05-06 4:23
>>20
"But when liberals feel their ideals have to be taken and forced upon people who don't believe in them, that's where I draw the line. "
It's almost like they're not really liberal at all! Almost like they cherry pick which personal liberties are good and which are bad, which isn't liberal in any way.
Protip for the idiots: It is possible to be socially liberal (like or apathetic towards gay marriage, abortion, etc) but still be fiscally conservative (prefer limiting the size of government [IE: let people take care of themselves, stop making the country a Nanny State] try to reduce debt, etc...) Also, stop assuming that republicans are all 100% psychotic Christians. There are, in fact, atheists in the republican party.
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Anonymous2009-05-06 4:25
Heh, you can see a problem with liberals by looking at California. California considers itself the most progressive and liberal state. They have a horrible deficit, they suffer power outages because of their socialism, and businesses are flocking away from them. That's why 1.5 million people left California last year and about the same number came to Texas, the conservative bastion.
It's the liberals who support the crazy men who sue Hooters when Hooters won't hire them as Hooter Girls. Everything must be equal, like socialism.
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Anonymous2009-05-11 1:44
>>34 Dude, I'm sure there are atheists in every political party, but in American politics, it is almost impossible in the current age for an honest atheist to be elected.
On topic, Obama was highly criticized (not in major new sources of course) for his political affiliations, including his church. This involved him pleading ignorance about his pastor's (J. Right's) racism... it seems like he's just using religion as a tool to be elected. Fine by me, of course, but no honest religious person wants anyone seeming dishonest (certainly not an atheist!) in office.
Outwardly, American "Liberals" are less, erm, fanatic in their beleifs.
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Anonymous2009-05-11 4:11
Another thing wrong with liberals is how hard they milk the "IM A VICTIM" gravy train, it seems it extends to optional beliefs now. >>36
Stop trying to make yourself out to be like a jew in auschwitz, no one's oppressing you, atheism is just another religion and thus a choice and a legitimate issue no different from views on foreign policy or government spending.
>>37 atheism is just another religion
Why does this myth keep on being perpetuated? How can atheism be a religion when it is a lack of faith in any religion whatsoever?
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Anonymous2009-05-12 10:42
>>38
It's not my fault the English language is so FUCKED UP that it can't even properly define religion in such a way that it includes atheism. But just saying "Durr, no it's not" does nothing to solve the problem.
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Anonymous2009-05-12 16:20
>>38
Wrong, wrong. Examples of myths that are continually perpetuated, especially to the detriment of society, are things like Jesus, and Mohamed. As to atheism being a religion I suggest you look the word up. You'll find it generally fits.